03/05/2011.
Janette Sherman, M.D., toxicologist in the us. By the《EnviroVideo》
""Title: Chernobyl: A Million Casualties""
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Title: Chernobyl: A Million Casualties
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A million people have died so far as a result of the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear plant accident, explains Janette Sherman, M.D., toxicologist and contributing editor of the book Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment. Published by the New York Academy of Sciences, the book, authored by Dr. Alexey Yablokov, Dr. Vassily Nesterenko and Dr. Alexey Nesterenko, examined medical records now available--which expose as a lie the claim of the International Atomic Energy Commission that perhaps 4,000 people may die as a result of Chernobyl.
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0:01 – 0:04 Chernobyl, a million casualties
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0:24 – 0:26 Welome to Enviro-Close-up
0:26 – 0:28 I am Karl Grossman
0:28 – 0:31 This coming April 26th
0:31 – 0:33 marks the 25th anniversary of
0:33 – 0:37 the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster
0:37 – 0:41 Meanwhile, the nuclear industry worldwide
0:41 – 0:44 is pushing for a revival of nuclear power
0:44 – 0:48 and this very important book has been published
0:48 – 0:52 Title: "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe..
0:52 – 0:54 for People and the Environment"
0:54 – 1:00 and, it concludes, based on now available medical data
1:00 – 1:03 that, between 1986, the year of the accident,
1:03 – 1:10 and 2004, 985,00 people died as the result
1:10 – 1:12 of the disaster
1:12 – 1:15 and more have been dying since.
1:15 – 1:18 With us is Dr. Janet Sherman
1:18 – 1:21 she's the contributing editor of this book
1:21 – 1:26 which was authored by a noted Russian biologist
1:26 – 1:28 Alexey Yablokov
1:28 – 1:30 Vassily Nesterenko
1:30 – 1:33 and Alexey Nesterenko,
1:33 – 1:35 they're both from Belorussia
1:35 – 1:37 Welcome Janet.
1:37 – 1:39 How did these people die?
1:39 – 1:41 I mean we're talking a million people dead
1:41 – 1:43 from this nuclear accident. How?
1:43 – 1:47 They died of multiple different kinds of diseases
1:47 – 1:51 from cancer to heart disease, brain damage,
1:51 – 1:53 thyroid cancer.
1:53 – 1:56 But many children died in utero
1:56 – 1:58 in other words before they were born
1:58 – 2:02 or died of birth defects after they were born
2:02 – 2:05 How did these scientists determine
2:05 – 2:10 985,000 deaths as the result of Chernobyl?
2:10 – 2:12 Based on medical data that were
2:12 – 2:14 available to the scientists.
2:14 – 2:17 Now what we've heard, frankly since the accident
2:17 – 2:21 from the International Atomic Energy Agency
2:21 – 2:23 which is the global group
2:23 – 2:25 which is supposed to regulate
2:25 – 2:27 and promote nuclear power
2:27 – 2:29 the casualties of Chernobyl
2:29 – 2:36 well currently, from IAEA, on its website
2:36 – 2:41 says maybe, in all, there were 4,000 people dead.
2:41 – 2:44 Now that's quite different from 985,000
2:44 – 2:47 Why this discrepancy?
2:47 – 2:50 Well, they released a report
2:50 – 2:53 called the "Chernobyl Forum",
2:53 – 2:56 and they only included about 350 articles
2:56 – 2:59 available in the English language.
2:59 – 3:04 But, Dr. Yablokov, and the two Nesterenkos
3:04 – 3:07 looked at well over 5,000 articles
3:07 – 3:13 and the people who were, excuse the term
3:13 – 3:15 "boots on the ground"
3:15 – 3:18 people who were there, who saw what was going on
3:18 – 3:21 We're talking about medical doctors
3:21 – 3:25 scientists, veterinarians, epidemiologist
3:25 – 3:27 who saw what was happening
3:27 – 3:29 when people in their communities
3:29 – 3:32 were getting sick and dying.
3:32 – 3:33 There's another international agency,
3:33 – 3:37 the World Health Organization (WHO)
3:37 – 3:39 and indeed the book charges
3:39 – 3:42 the truth has not come out on Chernobyl
3:42 – 3:44 from the WHO,
3:44 – 3:47 and forget about the IAEA
3:47 – 3:53 because of an agreement between these two agencies
3:53 – 3:55 Can you elaborate on that agreement?
3:55 – 3:58 They formed an agreement in 1959
3:58 – 4:00 that has not been changed
4:00 – 4:04 where one will not release a report
4:04 – 4:05 without the agreement of the other.
4:05 – 4:10 Now, this is like having Dracula guarding the blood-bank
4:10 – 4:12 because the WHO who is charged with
4:12 – 4:15 "world health organization"
4:15 – 4:17 is beholden to the IAEA
4:17 – 4:20 before they can release a report.
4:20 – 4:25 And, what the IAEA, I mentioned before,
4:25 – 4:28 is there to regulate nuclear technology
4:28 – 4:29 around the world
4:29 – 4:33 But, it is also set up to promote it.
4:33 – 4:36 And, it evidently does not want anything from WHO
4:36 – 4:39 which would indicate that nuclear power
4:39 – 4:41 is not good for one's health.
4:41 – 4:44 That's right, and this needs to be ended,
4:44 – 4:46 this agreement needs to be stopped.
4:46 – 4:49 Let me go right to you
4:49 – 4:54 You've devoted your life to the impacts of poison
4:54 – 4:58 That's been your specialty, a toxicologist.
4:58 – 5:00 Here, your editing this book
5:00 – 5:04 you're going through all this scientific data
5:04 – 5:08 This has to be― a million dead of the Chernobyl accident ―
5:08 – 5:12 the biggest technological disaster,
5:12 – 5:14 frankly, in the history of the world!
5:14 – 5:17 True.
5:17 – 5:21 How did you feel as you looked at the data
5:21 – 5:26 and you put this book together?
5:26 – 5:30 Well, I realized it was far worse than I thought it was
5:30 – 5:36 and that, not only were, people dying of cancer
5:36 – 5:37 and heart disease,
5:37 – 5:41 but every single organ in the body,
5:41 – 5:44 whether it was immunological, or lungs,
5:44 – 5:47 or cataracts, or skin:
5:47 – 5:50 Everything was adversely affected.
5:50 – 5:53 But, not only people,
5:53 – 5:56 every single system that was studied
5:56 – 5:59 and not all were, but every system that was studied
5:59 – 6:03 whether it was humans, or fish, or tress,
6:03 – 6:09 or birds, bacteria, viruses, wolves, cows,
6:09 – 6:11 Every system was changed,
6:11 – 6:16 every single system, without exception.
6:16 – 6:19 And, this was reflected in the book?
6:19 – 6:21 It's not just human effects.
6:21 – 6:24 Many of the birds and animals
6:24 – 6:27 had similar adverse effects as humans
6:27 – 6:31 Most people aren't familiar... We all know I think,
6:31 – 6:35 at this point that radio-activity and cancer
6:35 – 6:37 go together
6:37 – 6:40 But heart problems, heart disease,
6:40 – 6:41 how does that connect?
6:41 – 6:44 Well, one of the most fascinating things
6:44 – 6:48 that I learned when I was rewriting the text
6:48 – 6:51 of the book, and going through all of the data,
6:51 – 6:54 was one of the scientists, Bandeshevski (sic)
6:54 – 6:59 had done a study that showed that the Cesium 137 levels
6:59 – 7:04 in children were the same as he had found in test animals
7:04 – 7:07 and were causing heart damage.
7:07 – 7:09 He reported this,
7:09 – 7:12 and for his work, he was put in prison
7:12 – 7:15 He was put in prison?
7:15 – 7:16 He was put in prison, yes.
7:16 – 7:19 And, he analyzed... these are animals, that were...
7:19 – 7:21 Well he did the original study on animals,
7:21 – 7:25 and, then, as a pathologist, studying the results
7:25 – 7:28 in children, and he found the same changes
7:28 – 7:31 in the hearts of children, who had died,
7:31 – 7:32 as he had seen in the animals.
7:32 – 7:34 And, when he reported it
7:34 – 7:41 his thanks was, he was arrested and put in prison.
7:41 – 7:43 The radio activity from Chernobyl
7:43 – 7:48 Russia, Belorussia, the Ukraine:
7:48 – 7:50 these were three places where
7:50 – 7:52 a lot of the radiation was deposited.
7:52 – 7:55 But, according to this book,
7:55 – 7:56 again based on data,
7:56 – 8:00 those poisons came down all over the world.
8:00 – 8:04 Yes, they did. And, the greatest concentrations
8:04 – 8:06 came down in Belorussia, the Ukraine and Russia,
8:06 – 8:09 but the greatest amount, more that 50 percent
8:09 – 8:12 spread around the entire northern hemisphere.
8:12 – 8:18 Particularly north into Scandinavia,
8:18 – 8:21 and eastward into Asia.
8:21 – 8:23 As far as China.
8:23 – 8:25 Oh, yes.
8:25 – 8:27 The book concludes, indeed,
8:27 – 8:29 that the deaths, as a result of Chernobyl,
8:29 – 8:33 occurred not just in Belorussia, Russia and the Ukraine,
8:33 – 8:34 but all over.
8:34 – 8:37 Oh, around the entire world, yes of course.
8:37 – 8:39 How long will this continue?
8:39 – 8:42 I mean, some of the poisons that were discharged
8:42 – 8:45 they're going to be around for millennia?
8:45 – 8:47 Oh yes, I mean just the two main ones
8:47 – 8:51 Cesium 137 and Strontium 90
8:51 – 8:53 have half-lives of about 30 years
8:53 – 8:56 so they'll be around for three centuries at least,
8:56 – 8:58 but many of the isotopes will be
8:58 – 9:00 around for millennia, you're right.
9:00 – 9:03 The book, however, stresses that
9:03 – 9:09 the worst damage occurred in those early months
9:09 – 9:11 particularly those early weeks,
9:11 – 9:14 when the fire― there was this huge fire
9:14 – 9:19 that they weren't able to put out.― that was blazing.
9:19 – 9:21 Well yes, but still right now
9:21 – 9:26 the reactor is leaking into the water supply,
9:26 – 9:29 the structure that is around the reactor right now
9:29 – 9:31 is not sound.
9:31 – 9:34 And, if there is as much as a mild earth-quake
9:34 – 9:35 there's a chance of it collapsing.
9:35 – 9:40 So, this reactor is by no means covered up
9:40 – 9:43 or safe, and not leaking.
9:43 – 9:48 This book, telling the truth about Chernobyl
9:48 – 9:51 was published by the New York Academy of Sciences
9:51 – 9:55 a rather prestigious organization.
9:55 – 9:59 What about the rest of the scientific establishment?
9:59 – 10:06 What's been there, how can I put it,
10:06 – 10:08 stance, their position, in getting this
10:08 – 10:10 information out about Chernobyl?
10:10 – 10:14 Well, some groups have been very
10:14 – 10:17 interested in getting out the information.
10:17 – 10:18 And, people allied with the nuclear industry
10:18 – 10:21 would just as soon nobody knew anything about
10:21 – 10:22 what's in that books.
10:22 – 10:26 How did Dr. Yoblekov, and the Dr.s Nosterenko
10:26 – 10:30 embark on this journey with you
10:30 – 10:34 of looking into the impacts of Chernobyl?
10:34 – 10:36 Well, they have been aware of
10:36 – 10:40 the WHO and IAEA agreement, and actually
10:40 – 10:43 there have been people 24/7 outside
10:43 – 10:46 the WHO Geneva (Switzerland) headquarters
10:46 – 10:49 trying to get this stopped, this agreement stopped.
10:49 – 10:50 Have these people been demonstrating?
10:50 – 10:51 Demonstrating, yes.
10:51 – 10:53 Picketing because of this...
10:53 – 10:54 (This agreement...)
10:54 – 10:56 what the book describes as a collusive
10:56 – 11:00 agreement between the IAEA and WhO.
11:00 – 11:03 That's correct. Alexey Yoblokov was
11:03 – 11:05 a consultant to both Gorbachev and Yelstin,
11:05 – 11:07 on the Chernobyl issues,
11:07 – 11:09 and, as you know, the data were covered up
11:09 – 11:13 for about three years after Chernobyl happened,
11:13 – 11:15 because the governments did not want
11:15 – 11:17 anything to be known by people
11:17 – 11:19 and they collected almost nothing
11:19 – 11:20 in the way of data.
11:20 – 11:23 Alexey became interested in that
11:23 – 11:25 and started collecting information.
11:25 – 11:30 I think there is something like 150,000 publications
11:30 – 11:32 that have come out, and they utilized
11:32 – 11:35 well over 5,000 in writing this books.
11:35 – 11:38 Many of the sources in here have never been
11:38 – 11:40 translated in English.
11:40 – 11:44 Mostly were in the languages of
11:44 – 11:47 Ukraine, Russia and Belorussia.
11:47 – 11:50 So, this is entirely new informaiton
11:50 – 11:54 that has not been available to the Western world,
11:54 – 11:57 You talk about the impacts on people
11:57 – 11:59 on animals, on plant life.
11:59 – 12:01 Are the mechanisms different?
12:01 – 12:04 No, essentially, the mechanisms are the same.
12:04 – 12:07 Exposure to these radio-active isotopes
12:07 – 12:10 are taken up by plants, birds, taken up by humans
12:10 – 12:16 and damage the cells, kill some of the cells,
12:16 – 12:19 damage the DNA, damage the genetic
12:19 – 12:22 mechanisms of species.
12:22 – 12:25 Now, if it kills the cell, then it's not
12:25 – 12:27 going to go on to cause cancer,
12:27 – 12:29 if it damages a cell, it can go on
12:29 – 12:32 to cause cancer, or a birth defect,
12:32 – 12:39 in a human, a bird, or even "birth defects" in plants.
12:39 – 12:42 Plants have been altered by Chernobyl.
12:42 – 12:45 Now, you just mentioned how the consequences
12:45 – 12:47 were a lot toward the northwest,
12:47 – 12:49 because the winds were blowing
12:49 – 12:53 towards of all places Scandinavia, the Lapps,
12:53 – 12:55 I mean people who had nothing to do
12:55 – 12:58 with Chernobyl or nuclear power.
12:58 – 13:00 They got hit.
13:00 – 13:04 There was rain, there was fallout, and so forth.
13:04 – 13:06 Speak about those consequences.
13:06 – 13:10 A recent study has come out
13:10 – 13:13 showing that children born in Scandinavia,
13:13 – 13:17 at the time when the Chernobyl fallout occurred,
13:17 – 13:20 are less likely to graduate from high-school.
13:20 – 13:22 They have intellectual impairment.
13:22 – 13:26 Probably the most serious consequence of Chernobyl
13:26 – 13:30 that I'm aware of is that only 20% of children
13:30 – 13:33 in Belorussia are considered healthy.
13:33 – 13:38 That means 80% of the children in Belorussia
13:38 – 13:42 are not well, compared to the data that they have
13:42 – 13:44 of children before the Chernobyl accident,
13:44 – 13:47 and they're medically not well,
13:47 – 13:51 and they are intellectually below par.
13:51 – 13:56 How would that... what would be the relationship there?
13:56 – 13:59 Between radio-activity and a deterioration
13:59 – 14:02 of intellectual capability?
14:02 – 14:04 Well, while a mother is pregnant,
14:04 – 14:08 she is eating food, and what happened, was
14:08 – 14:10 most of the people did not know, or they did
14:10 – 14:14 not have access to food that was not contaminated.
14:14 – 14:17 These isotopes are taken into the body while
14:17 – 14:19 a woman is pregnant.
14:19 – 14:22 They are transported through her body
14:22 – 14:27 to the unborn, and damage the heart, the lungs,
14:27 – 14:29 the thyroids, the brains,
14:29 – 14:31 all the tissues, the immunological system
14:31 – 14:33 of these unborn.
14:33 – 14:38 These children are born unwell, low birth weight.
14:38 – 14:42 There was a very high fetal death rate
14:42 – 14:44 as a result of these exposures.
14:44 – 14:46 This is probably the greatest tragedy
14:46 – 14:51 that could occur to a culture
14:51 – 14:55 After the accident, from the Ukraine,
14:55 – 14:57 which had been the break-basket of the
14:57 – 15:01 former Soviet-Union, where Chernobyl was and is.
15:01 – 15:06 In fact there's three units of the Chernobyl
15:06 – 15:09 nuclear facility still in operation.
15:09 – 15:12 In any case, that food moved around.
15:12 – 15:16 Well, this is an extremely serious problem.
15:16 – 15:18 How do you get enough food for people
15:18 – 15:21 if the land is contaminated for three centuries?
15:21 – 15:26 And, not only are you worried about grains,
15:26 – 15:29 like wheat, or rye, but you also have to worry
15:29 – 15:33 about mushrooms. It doesn't sound
15:33 – 15:34 very important, but mushrooms are
15:34 – 15:38 a very big part of the food supply in that area.
15:38 – 15:41 And, these are extremely contaminated.
15:41 – 15:44 The book concludes,
15:44 – 15:52 based on 985,000 people dead,
15:52 – 15:54 the data, however, just covers
15:54 – 15:58 from 1986 to 2004.
15:58 – 16:03 As we opened the program by mentioning
16:03 – 16:05 a million casualties, would that be essentially
16:05 – 16:09 the number that became victims of Chernobyl?
16:09 – 16:13 I believe that's correct, that we will see that many.
16:13 – 16:18 We know, for instance, that people called
16:18 – 16:20 the liquidators.
16:20 – 16:21 These were the young men and women
16:21 – 16:23 who were recruited, largely from the military,
16:23 – 16:25 from countries all around the area
16:25 – 16:28 to go in to put out the fires,
16:28 – 16:31 and contain the Chernobyl mess.
16:31 – 16:35 15% of them have died.
16:35 – 16:38 And, now these were young men and women,
16:38 – 16:43 we're talking about between 18 and 30.
16:43 – 16:48 Dr. Sherman, in terms of the amount
16:48 – 16:50 of radio-activity emitted from the plant,
16:50 – 16:54 there to is a big discrepancy between
16:54 – 16:57 what's revealed in this book
16:57 – 17:00 and what's been acknowledged up to now.
17:00 – 17:03 Absolutely, and if a small amount was emitted,
17:03 – 17:06 the we have to conclude that low levels
17:06 – 17:09 of radiation are extremely damaging.
17:09 – 17:13 And, if large levels were emitted, we have to
17:13 – 17:18 understand how much damage has been done.
17:18 – 17:21 But, we really don't know yet
17:21 – 17:24 because nobody has been able to find out
17:24 – 17:28 what is actually left in the reactor,
17:28 – 17:31 that is leaking into the ground-water.
17:31 – 17:33 What does this say about the safety
17:33 – 17:35 of nuclear power?
17:35 – 17:38 I mean, the nuclear industry, the nuclear
17:38 – 17:41 establishment, because a lot of the nuclear
17:41 – 17:44 industry involved government entities,
17:44 – 17:49 a push is on to revive nuclear power, to create
17:49 – 17:51 a nuclear Renaissance, to build many, many
17:51 – 17:53 more nuclear power plants.
17:53 – 17:55 What's the lesson of Chernobyl?
17:55 – 17:59 I think the lesson of Chernobyl is
17:59 – 18:02 we should be very careful before
18:02 – 18:04 we push technology. I mean we were told
18:04 – 18:07 that there was no problem with British Petroleum
18:07 – 18:10 drilling in the Gulf of Mexico,
18:10 – 18:16 There's one issue of technology,
18:16 – 18:19 where engineers do certain things, but they
18:19 – 18:21 don't understand the biology.
18:21 – 18:23 They don't understand what's happening
18:23 – 18:26 to life around these installations.
18:26 – 18:29 And, I think Chernobyl is the biggest lesson
18:29 – 18:32 of what is happened to all species
18:32 – 18:38 that were contaminated. No exceptions.
18:38 – 18:41 I mean, the book talks about Owls...
18:41 – 18:45 could you elaborate upon some of the effects on animals?
18:45 – 18:49 One of the scientists, whose photograph
18:49 – 18:51 is on the book, is Tim Rousseau,
18:51 – 18:52 form the University of South Carolina.
18:52 – 18:57 He's led about 25 groups of scientists to
18:57 – 18:58 the Chernobyl area
18:58 – 19:03 and the have studied insects, and birds, and animals,
19:03 – 19:06 and owls, and all kinds of different animals
19:06 – 19:08 as tot what's going on.
19:08 – 19:11 He said one of the trips he made,
19:11 – 19:16 he suddenly realized there were no bees,
19:16 – 19:21 and there was no fruit falling on the ground.
19:21 – 19:23 And, he realized there was no fruit
19:23 – 19:25 falling on the ground, because
19:25 – 19:28 there were no bees that had pollenated the trees.
19:28 – 19:31 So, he is predicting, and this may
19:31 – 19:35 indeed happen, that there could be
19:35 – 19:40 a complete loss of species around Chernobly
19:40 – 19:47 as a result of these isotopes that are still decaying,
19:47 – 19:50 that could wipe out entire species.
19:50 – 19:53 I mean, you know, after all, it is a major
19:53 – 19:57 bird transport area, migration area,
19:57 – 19:59 and we don't know what's happening
19:59 – 20:01 when the birds come through,
20:01 – 20:04 eating whatever they can find on the ground
20:04 – 20:07 and then flying on, dropping the berries
20:07 – 20:11 further on after they have left the Chernobyl area.
20:11 – 20:13 The genetic impacts.
20:13 – 20:16 I mean rado-activity has an enormous
20:16 – 20:21 effect on genes. Speak on that.
20:21 – 20:26 These are unlikely to be improved.
20:26 – 20:29 Once you get a genetic defect,
20:29 – 20:31 it becomes transmitted
20:31 – 20:34 generation after generation after generation
20:34 – 20:40 so these defects, occurring in humans, in birds
20:40 – 20:47 in plants, are unlikely to improve the species
20:47 – 20:48 as they occur.
20:48 – 20:50 What kinds of genetic defects
20:50 – 20:51 are you speaking of?
20:51 – 20:53 Well, in humans, were talking about
20:53 – 20:57 brain defects, heart defects, limb defects,
20:57 – 20:58 children without arms,
20:58 – 21:01 hydrocephalic babies.
21:01 – 21:05 In birds, we're looking at changes
21:05 – 21:08 in the feathers, and in the beaks, and in
21:08 – 21:10 their brain size.
21:10 – 21:13 Talk about 'bird brains', these birds
21:13 – 21:15 are not as smart.
21:15 – 21:17 And they're not going to be able to function
21:17 – 21:20 as well as the birds that are not changed.
21:20 – 21:22 We know that the plants have been changed,
21:22 – 21:24 irreversably.
21:24 – 21:28 You know, this is not rocket science:
21:28 – 21:30 we know where these isotopes go,
21:30 – 21:34 we know that Iodine goes to the thyroid.
21:34 – 21:36 We know that Strontium 90 goes
21:36 – 21:39 to bones and teeth― particularly to the unborn.
21:39 – 21:41 We know that Cesium 137 goes to
21:41 – 21:43 the heart and to the muscles.
21:43 – 21:44 This is not a mystery,
21:44 – 21:49 and, if we know this, we can predict
21:49 – 21:51 what the adverse effects are going to be.
21:51 – 21:54 And, indeed, they turned out to be just that,
21:54 – 21:59 and its shown, proven, in this book.
21:59 – 22:03 This has to constitute one of the...well, the claim
22:03 – 22:05 that just a few thousand people died
22:05 – 22:07 as a result of Chernobyl disaster:
22:07 – 22:10 One of the biggest lies in history, no?
22:10 – 22:13 Absolutely, and they've been able
22:13 – 22:15 get away with it.
22:15 – 22:18 We need to put pressure on the WHO,
22:18 – 22:21 and the United Nations,
22:21 – 22:24 to separate the WHO from the IAEA.
22:24 – 22:26 Not just on the international level
22:26 – 22:27 with the International Atomic Energy Agency
22:27 – 22:31 and the World Health Organization,
22:31 – 22:32 here in the United States,
22:32 – 22:35 the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, has too
22:35 – 22:39 tried to minimize the impacts of radio-activity.
22:39 – 22:42 You're absolutely correct, and I can
22:42 – 22:44 go back to the Atomic Energy Commission,
22:44 – 22:46 before the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
22:46 – 22:50 I worked for for the AEC, at the University
22:50 – 22:52 of California, in 1952.
22:52 – 22:54 That was my first job out of college.
22:54 – 22:56 And, if I could figure out
22:56 – 23:00 with my limited experience at that time
23:00 – 23:02 and my limited education at that time
23:02 – 23:04 that radiation was harmful,
23:04 – 23:07 then other people could figure it out.
23:07 – 23:10 We have had secrecy and lies
23:10 – 23:13 to the American public, for decades,
23:13 – 23:15 about the effects of nuclear radiation.
23:15 – 23:18 There have been cover-ups,
23:18 – 23:21 these has been falsification of data,
23:21 – 23:22 There have been people who have said
23:22 – 23:25 don't worry about a little Strontium 90,
23:25 – 23:27 don't worry about deuterium
23:27 – 23:29 coming out of the plant,
23:29 – 23:31 We know that Davis Bessie (sic)
23:31 – 23:34 almost melted, within an inch of its
23:34 – 23:40 containment, as a result of its poor maintenance.
23:40 – 23:43 And, I believe it's just a matter of time
23:43 – 23:47 before we have another nuclear problem
23:47 – 23:48 somewhere in the world
23:48 – 23:50 if not in the United States.
23:50 – 23:55 Well, why. You were within the nuclear establishment
23:55 – 23:57 way back. We're talking about a half century ago.
23:57 – 24:02 Does it have to do with money?
24:02 – 24:06 Does it have to do with promoting
24:06 – 24:07 a technology that these people
24:07 – 24:10 are connected with― the nuclear scientists.
24:10 – 24:12 Why the lying, why the deception?
24:12 – 24:14 I think it has to do with many things, I think it's
24:14 – 24:18 the money. And the control is on
24:18 – 24:21 corporations who are promoting
24:21 – 24:23 nuclear technology.
24:23 – 24:24 But, we also have enormous
24:24 – 24:28 scientific ignorance in this country,
24:28 – 24:32 people who really don't understand biology.
24:32 – 24:36 I think if I lined up 20 people
24:36 – 24:39 let's say in a mall someplace, and said,
24:39 – 24:42 "Put your hand over your liver."
24:42 – 24:43 I'll bet you half of them couldn't do it.
24:43 – 24:47 And, to explain to people what's happening
24:47 – 24:49 with nuclear radiation. I think our
24:49 – 24:52 educational system is so poor these days
24:52 – 24:54 that children are not learning
24:54 – 24:57 about biology, and physics and chemistry,
24:57 – 25:00 and its essential because it such a major
25:01 – 25:04 part of our culture and our economy.
25:04 – 25:07 As you plowed through all this data,
25:07 – 25:09 the consequences of Chernobyl,
25:09 – 25:13 did the experience back decades ago
25:13 – 25:16 connect in any way with what you were doing?
25:16 – 25:21 Absolutely, I mean this has been know for decades
25:21 – 25:24 the adverse effects of radio-activity.
25:24 – 25:28 This is not something that has just occurred
25:28 – 25:30 in the last couple of years.
25:30 – 25:33 I mean scientists who have any knowledge
25:33 – 25:36 whatsoever of physics, can figure out
25:36 – 25:39 where an isotope is going to go
25:39 – 25:43 in a body, or in a plant, or in a bird.
25:43 – 25:46 I mean, this is not mysterious kinds of science.
25:46 – 25:50 What does Chernobyl represent.
25:50 – 25:52 I mean we're talking about a million dead.
25:52 – 25:55 What does it represent in terms of
25:55 – 25:59 technological history, or the current
25:59 – 26:01 technological scene.
26:01 – 26:02 What does it mean?
26:02 – 26:06 I think it represents very strongly that
26:06 – 26:07 we cannot depend on technology,
26:07 – 26:10 nor can we depend on humans
26:10 – 26:13 who operate and design this technology,
26:13 – 26:19 because the ultimate failure is human failure,
26:19 – 26:21 as it happened at Chernobyl.
26:21 – 26:23 We're talking here about
26:23 – 26:26 health consequences on
26:26 – 26:27 the most massive of scales.
26:27 – 26:30 Yes, indeed, around the entire
26:30 – 26:31 northern hemisphere.
26:31 – 26:34 Wherever the fallout was
26:34 – 26:37 people ended up dead.
26:37 – 26:40 They would up dead, and they wound up
26:40 – 26:43 children who were grossly impaired
26:43 – 26:45 intellectually and mecically, and this
26:45 – 26:49 is going on. It hasn't stopped yet,
26:49 – 26:51 it's still going on.
26:51 – 26:55 Dr. Sherman, how can people get
26:55 – 26:57 a copy of this book?
26:57 – 26:59 They could contact me by e-mail.
26:59 – 27:08 I am toxdoc.js@verizon.net.
27:08 – 27:12 And, I hope to have information on how
27:12 – 27:14 they can get copies of this book.
27:14 – 27:16 Yes, I think it's very important, at this time,
27:16 – 27:19 that people learn the truth
27:19 – 27:21 about what happened as a result of
27:21 – 27:23 the Chernobyl disaster.
27:23 – 27:27 Thank you so much for doing this work Dr. Sherman.
27:27 – 27:29 This has been Enviro-Close-up.
27:29 – 27:31 I am Karl Grossman.
27:31 – 27:33 Thank you for watching, and to get
27:33 – 27:36 a copy of this, or any Enviro video program
27:36 – 27:38 just visit our website
27:38 – 27:42 at www.envirovideo.com.
27:42 – 27:48 This program was taped on March 5th 2011
27:48 – 27:52 six days before the nuclear disaster in japan
27:52 – 27:54 began unfolding.
27:54 – 27:56 The clear lesson of Chernobyl, and now
27:56 – 28:00 the Japanese disaster: all nuclear plants
28:00 – 28:02 should be shut down.
28:02 – 28:05 They present a clear and present danger
28:05 – 28:07 to life on Earth.
28:07 – 28:09 No more nuclear plants should be built.
28:09 – 28:12 Tax-payer subsides for nuclear power
28:12 – 28:15 must be stopped, and we must embark
28:15 – 28:18 immediately on an energy program of
28:18 – 28:21 efficiency, and full implementation of
28:21 – 28:24 solar, wind, geo-thermal, and other
28:24 – 28:27 safe, clean energy technologies
28:27 – 28:29 which are here today,
28:29 – 28:31 and render deadly nuclear power
28:31 – 28:35 completely unnecessary.
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