前に、ホピの予言で、白い兄弟(兄/弟)について書いてましたが、
「失われた十支族 その3 2012-06-19 08:09:30 | ホピ族の予言にある、サクアソフー(青い星)、そして、将来やって来ると彼らホピが信じ待ち望んでるパハナ(白い兄弟)ですが、たまWEBは、ジョセフ・スミスから聞いたという、地球から分かれた星とそこに住んでいる失われた十支族と見てたわけです。んが、英文の斜め読みしましたところ、特に、そのパハナ(白い兄弟)なんですが、再臨する主キリストのことなのかもです。
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「失われた十支族 2011-07-21 12:51:05 | そうそう、ホピ族の予言にある、帰還する、良い『白い兄』が、この北の10支族のことなんだろうと・・・・
ホピ 青い星 白い兄
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正確には、白い兄弟と”本当の・真の白い兄弟”(true white brother)とを区別してますね。前者は、白人種アメリカ人ということになりましょう。後者は、失われた十支族ということで。”偽りの”と付けたのは、たまWEB的解釈で、どこが?と言えば、やはり、ホピの意味でもある平和の民とは、かけ離れてるみたいなことになりましょうか・・・・
”本当の白い” 兄弟
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「それに従う二人の従者とされる 従者の一人は純粋を表すカギ十字の サインかシンボルを持っており、」云々とあるのは、たまWEB的には、どうなのかなぁ?と。いつわり??
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ホピ ”平和の民”
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ホピの予言・・・・「地球での生き方を学びなおす探求の旅 by Kitayama "Smiling Cloud" Kohei Tuesday, November 23, 2004 もうひとつのホピの予言
最初の、第一の御しるし われわれに伝えられているのはパハンナのごとき白い肌の人たちの到来。この人たちはパハンナのように生きることはなく、自分たちのものでもない大地を取りあげて、敵を稲妻で打ちのめす。
第二の御しるし たくさんの声とともに回転する車輪が訪れるのをわれわれの大地は目撃する。
第三の御しるし 大きくて長い角をつけたバッファローのような奇妙な獣が無数にこの大地にあふれかえる。
第四の御しるし 大地を縦横に走りぬける鉄の蛇たち。
第五の御しるし 巨大な蜘蛛の巣が大地の隅々までを覆い尽くす。
第六の御しるし 描かれた太陽のごとく無数の石の河が縦横に走り巡らされた大地。
第七の御しるし 海の水が黒くかわり、そのことでたくさんの命が失われたとの風の知らせ。
第八の御しるし 一族の者のごとく髪を長く伸ばした多くの若者たちがやってきて部族の国々に加わり、生き方や知恵を学ぶ姿を目撃する。
そして最後の、第九の御しるし 天界の居住施設が大音声とともに落下して地表に激突。青き星が姿を現し、そのあとをおいかけるようにホピの人たちの儀式が止むとき。
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「天界の居住施設が大音声とともに落下して地表に激突。青き星が姿を現し、そのあとをおいかけるようにホピの人たちの儀式が止むとき。」の解釈ですが、
青い星は、地球も青かったといいますので、双子星でしょうか。十支族の住む星が地球から分かれたと説明する時、ジョセフは、手のひらの真ん中を、右手で割るような仕草をしたと、エライザ・R・スノーが言ったということなので、地球と同じくらいの大きさの星になるのでは。”天界の居住施設”も、その星のことかも。地球と合体する時の大轟音・・・・
「爆発音は4,776km先(インド洋のロドリゲス島)まで届き、人間が遠く離れた場所で発生した音を直接耳で聞いた最長距離記録となる。 クラカタウ 1883年の大噴火」 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%A6
「失われた十支族 2011-07-21 12:51:05 | ある晩エライザ・R・スノー姉妹宅を訪問してその分けられた地球について聞いてみた、ジョセフスミスは以下のように彼女に語ったそうだ。地球は元の大きさと比べると今は九十分の一。エノクの町は地球から分けられた金星に住んでいる。十支族が取り去られた時、主はその時の地球を半分の大きさに割った。ジョセフはその時左手のひらを右手で打つ仕草をした。十支族は天体・星に住んでいて、その地球から分けられた天体と共に彼等が帰還する時に、その星と地球との合体は大きな揺れを生じさせ、地球は酔った者のようにあちらこちらとよろめく'
チャールズ・L・ウォーカ日記
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エノクの町、金星、北の十支族関係の英文魚拓
「STATEMENTS
Orson Pratt, July 19, 1874, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 17, p. 147.
Does this prove that they were immortal beings from the time of their translation? No; it does not prove any such thing. How are we to know anything about it? We can not learn anything in relation to it, except by revelation. God has revealed to us that they are held in reserve, in some part or portion of space; their location is not revealed, but they are held in reserve to be revealed in the latter times, to return to their ancient mother earth; all the inhabitants that were then taken away are to return to the earth.
Joseph Young, History of the Organization of the Seventies, Deseret News Steam Printing Establishment, Salt Lake City, Utah, 1878. pp. 10-12.
[Full title of work is: History of the Organization of the Seventies - Names of the First and Second Quorums - Items in Relation to the First Presidency of the Seventies - Also, a brief glance at Enoch and his City - Embellished with a likeness of Joseph Smith, the Prophet, and a view of the Kirtland Temple.]
Ten years subsequently [1842], at Nauvoo, while naming historical incidents of antiquity, he [Jospeh Smith] alluded to the church, or Zion of Enoch, and discoursed sometime upon the nature of its organization, order and progress. He spoke with a view of correcting the teachings of some of the Elders who had maintained the doctrine that the people of that church had passed through the ordeals necessary to consummate the work of complete immortality, and that they would be prepared to enter into the presence of the Father and Son. This idea the Prophet took up, and revealed it in a different light - in what may be styled a divine philosophy. He declared of the Church of Enoch "that they did not die; that they had not then gone through their last changes and greatest refinement; and that they had, nevertheless, triumphed over death. That the people and the City, and the foundations of the earth on which it stood, had partaken of so much of the immortal elements bestowed upon them by God through the teachings of Enoch, that it became philosophically impossible for them to remain any longer upon the earth; consequently, Enoch and his people, with the City which they occupied, and the foundations on which it stood, with a large piece of the earth immediately connected with the foundations and the City, had assumed an aerial position within the limits of our solar system; and this in consequence of their faith."
He further said "that inasmuch as they did not pass through all the refinements which was necessary, as the Lord lives, they would return to the earth, when they and the City would pass through the same fiery ordeals that yet await the earth; when it shall be transformed into a sea of glass, mingled with fire and their preparations for a celestial abode of the glorified Saints shall be perfected.* [Here follows an * with the following footnote at the bottom of the page]
*Joseph Smith said, on another occasion, in the hearing of some of the saints still surviving, that the City of Enoch would again take its place in the identical spot from which it had been detached, now forming that chasm of the earth filled with water, called the Gulf of Mexico.
Orson Pratt, May 18, 1873, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 16, p. 50.
We come down to the days of the building of the Tower of Babel, soon after the flood. About the time of Abraham the Tower of Babel was built. The people being of one language, gathered together to build a tower to reach, as they supposed, the crystalized heavens. They thought that the City of Enoch was caught up a little ways from the earth, and that the city was within the first sphere above the earth; and that if they could get a tower high enough, they might get to heaven, where the City of Enoch and the inhabitants thereof were located. They went to work and built a tower. They had this tradition, that there had been a translation of people from the earth, and they were anxious to become acquainted with them[.]
Orson F. Whitney, Elias, An Epic of the Ages, Salt Lake City, 1914, p. 136. "Elias" is one of many poems written by Orson F. Whitney. The poem was begun in 1900 and first published in 1904. In 1914 a "revised and annotated edition" was published. The following is stanza 2424 and footnote 10 from the footnotes to the poem, being note 10 to line 2424 at page 81.
"The while, on fearless wings of purity,
Cleaving as bird or ransomed soul the air,
The sainted city entered into rest,
Envied of Babel, climbing robber-like;10
Bride of the Highest, midway hovering,
Till folded in the bosom of the Gods,
Where Zions from unnumbered worlds have fled.
Type temporal of spirit antitype,
A future moral height foreshadowing.
10-2424. Climbing Robber-like. According to the Bible, the people who built the Tower of Babel did so that its top might "reach unto heaven." (Gen 11:4) Joseph Smith is said to have declared that the "heaven" they had in view was the City of Enoch, then suspended within the sight of the earth. Endeavoring to get to Heaven by "another way," the builders of Babel were comparable to "thieves and robbers." Tradition asserts that the City of Enoch stood where the Gulf of Mexico now is.
Parley P. Pratt, Millennial Star, Volume 1, pp. 257-258, Feburary 1841.
[In answer to several questions posed by Joseph Fielding, Elder Pratt, as editor of the Millennial Star gave the following:]
Ques. 7th. - How can the stars fall from heaven to earth, when they (as far as we know) are much larger than the earth?
Ans. - We are nowhere given to understand that all the stars will fall or even many of them: but only "as a fig tree casteth her UNTIMELY figs when she is shaken with a mighty wind." The stars which will fall to the earth are fragments, which have been broken off from the earth from time to time, in the mighty convulations of nature. Some in the days of Enoch, some perhaps in the days of Peleg, some with the ten tribes, and some at the crucifixion of the Messiah. These all must be restored again at the "times of restitution of ALL THINGS." This will restore the ten tribes of Israel; and also bring again Zion, even Enoch's city. It will bring back the tree of life which is in the midst of the paradise of God; that you and I may partake of it. (See Rev. ii, 7.) When these fragments, (some of which are vastly larger than the present earth) are brought back and joined to this earth, it will cause a convulsion of all nature; the graves of the Saints will be opened, and they rise from the dead; while the mountains will flow down, the vallies rise, the sea retire to its own place, the islands and continents will be removed, and earth be rolled together like a scroll. The earth will be many times larger than it is now. -"If I have told you of earthly things and ye believed not; what would you think if you were to be told of heavenly things?"
Wandle Mace, Journal, 1809-1890, pp. 38-39, original in library of Brigham Young University.
I have many times been pondering upon a subject and seemed to come to a standstill, not knowing how to gain further information relating to it, when upon going to meeting on the sabbath, the key would be touched by Joseph and the subject would be so plain I wondered why I had not seen it before.
I was in this situation in relation to the Ten lost tribes of Israel. I had read everything I could find relating to them. I had carefully studied the statistics of the Jews and notwithstanding they had been persecuted for hundreds of years, being murdered and driven, until they were scattered all over the known world, yet they numbered several millions. I reasoned thus, had the "ten tribes" suffered equal disaster and they had increased in numbers, in the same ratio as the Jews, they would number nearly ten times as many or nine times and one-half as it is nine and one-half tribes instead of ten - If they had increased in this proportion where is there habitable earth for this vast amount of people? Who are hidden from the rest of mankind. I could not see.
I was in this train of thought, unable to obtain fruther information from any source, when as usual on Sunday morning, I took my skiff and crossed the river to Nauvoo, to attend meeting. Joseph addressed the congregation and as if for my special benefit, touched upon this subject which opened a new field for reflection to me.
His subject was:
The "restitution of all things spoken of by all the Holy Prophets since the world began," quoting the twentyfirst verse of the third chapter of the Acts of the Apostles.
In the course of his remarks he spoke of the earth being divided at various times. He said, "When Enoch and his City was taken away, a portion of earth was taken and would again be restored. Also in the days of Peleg, the earth was divided, see Genesis 10th Chapter, 25th verse." He then referred to the 'Ten Tribes' saying, "You know a long time ago in the days of Shalmanezar King of Assyria when the Ten Tribes was taken away, and never been heard of since." He said, The Earth will be restored as at the beginning, and the last taken away will be the first to return; for the last shall be first, and the first will be last in all things.
He illustrated the return by saying.
"Some of you brethern have been coming up the river on a steamboat, and while seated at the table, the steamboat run against a snag which upset the table and scatter[ed] the dishes; so it will be when these portions of earth return. It will make the earth reel to and fro like a drunken man," quoting 24th ch. Isiah 20th v. When speaking of the return of the Ten Tribes, he said, "The mountains of ice shall flow down at their presence," and a highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep."
These remarks satisfied me. it was no longer necessary to hunt the place on this earth where the Ten Tribes were so long hidden, for the earth was divided and taken away, and will be the first to return, as it was the last taken away.
"He shall command the great deep, and it shall be driven back into the North countries, and the island shall become one land."
"And the land of Jerusalem and the land of Zion shall be turned back into their own place, and the earth shall be like as it was in the days before it was divided. See appendix. Doctrine and Covenants.
I will introduce a Poem upon this subject, by Sister E. R. Snow, as it was published in the "Millineal Star" 1852 entitled.
"An Address to the Earth"
[Text of poem has been omitted, see below]
Eliza R. Snow, Poem "Address to Earth", Millennial Star, Vol XIII, No. 17, Sep 1, 1851.
Address to Earth.
By Eliza R. Snow.
Thou, earth, wast once a glorious sphere
Of noble maginitude
That did with majesty appear
Among the worlds of God.
But thy dimensionsions [sic] have been torn
Assunder piece by piece;
And each dismember'd fragment borne
Abroad to distant space.
When Enoch could no longer stay,
Amid corruption here;
Part of thyself was borne away,
To form another sphere.
That portion, where his city stood,
He gain'd by right approv'd;
And nearer to the throne of God
His planet upward mov'd.
And when the Lord saw fit to hide
The "ten lost tribes" away;
Thou wast divided to provide
The orb on which they stay.
The curse of God on man was plac'd-
That curse thou didst partake;
And thou hast been by turns disgrac'd,
And honor'd for his sake.
The vilest wretches hell will claim
Now breathe thy atmosphere-
The noblest spirits heav'n can name
Have been embodied here.
Jesus, the Lord, thy surface grac'd
And fell a sacrifice!
And now, within thy cold embrace!
The martyr'd Joseph lies!
A "restitution" yet will come
That will to thee restore,
By the grand law of worlds, thy sum
Of matter heretofore.
The hosts of Satan overcome-
The princely martyr'd race
Will claim thee their celestial home-
The royal dwelling place.
And thou, O earth ! will leave the track
Thou now art doom'd to trace-
The gods with shouts will bring thee back
To fill thy native place.
Samuel Holister Rogers, Journal, p. 8 in original, p. 17 of typescript, original in Brigham Young University library.
The winter following (1840) I attended a public meeting held in Vincent Knight's house at which the Prophet Joseph Smith gave the following instruction:
'When the world was first made it was a tremendous big thing. The Lord concluded it was too big. We read in the Scriptures that in the days of Peleg the earth was divided so the Lord divided the earth. When the ten tribes of the children of Israel went into the north country he divided it again, so the earth has been divided and subdivided. We also read in the Scriptures that the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunken man. What shall cause this earth to reel to and fro like a drunken man? We read that the stars shall fall to the earth like a fig falling from a fig tree. When these stars return to the place where they were taken from, it will cause the earth to reel to and fro. Not that the planets will come squarely against each other, in such case both planets would be broken to pieces. But in their rolling motion they will come together where they were taken from which will cause the earth to reel to and fro.'
Bathsheba W. Smith, "Recollections of the Prophet Joseph Smith." The Juvenile Instructor, June 1, 1892, Vol. 27. p. 34.
Some things she recollects of him are here given:
"I heard Joseph Smith preach baptism for the dead; saw him baptizing for the dead in the Mississippi River. I heard him say, "Preadventure, the Ten Tribes were not on this globe, but a portion of this earth had cleaved off with them and went flying into space, and when the time comes when the 'earth reels to and fro like a drunken man and the stars from heaven fall,' it would join on again.
Wilford Woodruff, Journal, Sep 25, 1859. Printed in Waiting for World's End, The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, Susan Staker, ed., Signature Books, Salt Lake City, 1993, p. 238.
25 Sunday I met with the Twelve in the evening ... The evening was spent in conversing upon the subject of the Ten tribes in the North Country, the Higher law of god in oposition to the law of gravitation in the assention of Christ Elijah & Enoch & the City of Zion to heaven upon the Same principle a portion of the North Country Containing the ten tribes may be separated from the Earth. O Hyde & others believed they would soon return.
Wilford Woodruff, Journal, Sep 8, 1867, Printed in Waiting for World's End, The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, Susan Staker, ed., Signature Books, Salt Lake City, 1993, p. 291.
8 Sunday We had social Conversation in the Evening President Young said he herd Joseph Smith say that the Ten Tribes of Israel were on a Portion of Land separated from this Earth. He had also herd Joseph say that Children would not Grow after death & that at another time that they would grow & he hardly knew how to reconcile it. He would like a variety in Eternity. Children might grow in intelligence & not in statute as well as a grown Person. If his Children were grown up after leaving him he would not know them.
Matthias F. Cowley, "Wilford Woodruff, History of His Life and Labors, as Recorded in His Daily Journals. Salt Lake City, 1909, reprinted by Bookcraft, Salt Lake City, 1964, p. 448.
[1867]
The leaders on their return from Provo made a visit to Logan. Here, President Young is quoted as saying that the ten tribes of Israel are on a portion of the earth - a portion separated from the main land. This view is also expressed in one of the sacrificial [sacramental?] hymns written by Eliza R. Snow:
"And when the Lord saw fit to hide
The ten lost tribes away,
Thou, earth, was severed to provide
The orb on which they stay."
Orson Pratt, Letter Box of Orson Pratt, Church Historian's Office, Letter to John C. Hall, December 13, 1875. [Quoted in R. Clayton Brough, "The Lost Tribes", Horizon Publishers, 1979, p. 50.]
The Prophet Joseph [Smith] once in my hearing advanced his opinion that the Ten Tribes were separated from the Earth; or a portion of the Earth was by a miracle broken off, and that the Ten Tribes were taken away with it, and that in the latter days it would be restored to the Earth or be let down in the Polar regions. Whether the Prophet founded his opinion upon revelation or whether it was a matter of mere speculation with him, I am not able to say.
Oliver B. Huntington, The Young Woman's Journal, Vol. 3, No. 6 March 1892, p. 264.
One truth after another men are finding out by the wisdom and inspiration given of God to them.
The inspiration of God caused men to hunt for a new continent until Columbus discovered it. Men have lost millions of dollars, and hundreds of lives to find a country beyond the north pole; and they will yet find that country - a warm, fruitful country, inhabited by the ten tribes of Israel, a country divided by a river, on one side of which lives the half tribe of Manasseh, which is more numerous than all the others. So said the Prophet. At the same time he described the shape of the earth at the poles as being a rounded elongation, and drew a diagram of it in this form:
which any one can readily see will allow the sun's rays to fall so near perpendicular to the center that that part of the earth may be warmed and made fruitful. He quoted scripture in proof of his theory which says that "the earth flieth upon its wings in the midst of the creations of God," and said that there was a semblance in the form of the earth that gave rise to the saying.
Cedar Fort, Utah,
Feb. 6, 1892.
Philo Dibble, as quoted in Norman C. Pierce, ``3? Years,'' n.d., n.p., p. 129; which paraphrases Matthew W. Dalton, "A Key to This Earth," 1906, [p.?].
The Hon. Philo Dibble of Springville, Utah, onetime bodyguard and intimate friend of the Prophet Joseph, is said to have received a diagram from the Prophet in 1842, which indicated the arrangement of this earth as a triple planet at the time when the Ten Tribes were directed to the northern sphere.
The diagram appears much as would one large and two small balls spaced close together; the larger ball in the center representing the earth. It is pointed out that the Ten Tribes attained this northern planet by means of the axis that joined them together, and the triple arrangement of these planets gives a literal significance to the passage in the Doctrine and Covenants, 88:45, "The earth rolls upon her wings, and the sun giveth his light by day, and the moon giveth her light by night, and the stars giveth their light, as they roll upon their wings in their glory, in the midst of the power of God." Here it is pointed out that many of the stars are in double and triple arrangement, although they may not be touching each other.
This author also points out that the northern planet also provided the place from which the water came and receded during the great baptismal flood of Noah's day. And it is there that the great surplus of water will go when the continents are made into one land mass again as they were before the days of Peleg. Some believe that the seeming nearness of such a planet is what inspired construction of the Great Tower of Babel in a vain attempt to reach another world of higher order, - to reach heaven as it were.
Charles L. Walker, Journal, original in Brigham Young University library, edited version printed in Diary of Charles Lowell Walker, A. Karl Larson and Katharine Miles Larson, eds., Utah State University Press, Logan, 1980. Page numbers are from the Utah State University version.
Vol. II, p. 532 [Feb. 1881]
Friday 11th Still Couldy and cold. At the Lord's House all day. At night went to Prayer Meeting and spoke of my going out in 1857 to Meet Johnstons Army and of a dream that I had in Soda Springs Saying the Prophet Joseph and of him saying "Fear not I go before you." Spoke of the judgments of God that would be poured out in the last days, quoted from the Doc. and Cov. On this subgect. Some remarks were made by Sister Green stating that she heard Elisa Snow speak of the 9 and 1/2 lost tribes being on an orb and would eventually come back to the[i]r former place and we should know when they came by certain signs &c &c.
Vol. II, p. 539 [Mar. 1881]
Sunday 6th ... At night went to meeting. Bro Jacob Gates spoke in a very pleasing manner on a variety of subjects Showing the ultimate triumph of Jesus Christ or the Powers of darkness and the Establishment of God's Kingdom upon the earth and the glorious Reign of Imanuel during the great Millenium, the power of God being manifested in the return of the ten lost tribes of Israel and of their coming to Zion to receive their blessings under the Hands of Ephriam. Said he heard Joseph Smith say when he was head bishop at Partridge's House in Far West, Missouri, concerning the ten lost tribes, They are hid from us by land and air. Said Bishop Partridge, I guess they are by land and water, in a doubting manner as if Joseph did not know what he was talking about. Yes, said Joseph, by land and air; they are hid from us in such a manner and at such an angle that the Astronomers cannot get their telescopes to bear on them from this earth. He exorted the saints to live up to their great privilleges and gain power with the heavens.
Vol. II, p. 540 [Mar. 1881]
Thurs 10th Cold. At the Temple all day. At night paid Sister Eliza R Snow a short Visit and had some conversations with her on the Dividing of the Earth. She told me that she heard the prophet Joseph say that when the 10 tribes were taken away, the Lord cut the Earth in two, Joseph striking his left hand in the center with the edge of his right to illustrate the idea, and that they (the ten tribes) were on an orb or planet by themself, and when they returned with the portion of this Earth that was taken away with them, the Coming together of these 2 bodies or orbs would cause a shock and make the "Earth reel to and fro like a druken Man." She also state that he said the earth was now ninety times smaller or smaller now than when first created or organized. She spoke of a vision that Br Baker had concerning the beauty and order of the vast systems of universes, each grand systems of worlds revolving around greater and more stupendous, each performing their grand cycles and all moving in sweet Harmony and sublime and awfully majestic grandeour at the will of the great -[missing word] She also expressed her opinion as to the Planets and their destiny. After leaving I had many curious and pleasing reflections.
Vol II, p. 868 [Apr. 1898]
Sun 17th Attended S S Theological class. Br Jos Snow gave a very interesting lecture on the Scattering and gathering of Israel. Said that the Papyrus obtained by the prophet Joseph Smith in connection with the Books of Moses and Abraham found in the wrappings of the Mumies gave an account of the Ten lost Tribes of Israel, their journeyings geographically to the land of the North Country, a place where no man had ever set his foot before, also a diagram, showing their present location, also of the City of Enoch.
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NOTES
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