commencalの海外サイトをチェックしていたら、2014モデルにはRAMONES Cr-Moが存在しない事が判明。
ガッカリ～って思ってしまった！
しかし、代わりにと言っては何ですが、650BになったMETA HT CROMOと言うモデルが発生しております。
これは650Bが気になっていて、クロモリが気になっていた自分には願ったり叶ったりかも？
650Bで150mmのサスが装着されているので、下り系のままの様だし・・・
これをフレーム買いして・・・1x10で組んで・・・何て妄想を・・・おっとサルサ野郎さんの病気が感染して来たかも？
気を取り直して、備忘録として書いて置きます。
FRAME New 2014 META CRMO 650b, CrMo light double butted, integrated hanger
FORK FOX 32 650b float evolution o/c, 150mm qr15
HEADSET NECO semi integrated, tapered zs44/44, 1”1/8 lower washer ball retainer
STEM ALPHA, alloy 2014 forged, 60mm, 0° rise, ø31,8mm
BAR ALPHA, alloy 6061db, 0.75”rise, 750mm, ø31,8mm
GRIPS COMMENCAL 2014 lock on, outside ø30mm, soft compound
BRAKES New FORMULA c1, 180mm/180mm, with X7 matchmaker
SHIFTERS SRAM x7 2x10 speed
FRONT MECH SRAM x5 2 speed
REAR MECH SRAM x7 type 2 10 speed
BOTTOM BRACKET SRAM GPX 92mm sealed bearings
CRANKS SRAM S1000 gxp 24/38t, 170mm xs/s, 175mm m/l/xl
CHAIN YABAN SH10C, with quick link connector
CASSETTE SRAM pg1030 11-36t
RIMS JALCO 650b 32h double wall, 26,5mm, pin joint, disc version
HUBS JOYTECH 32h, sealed bearings, steel cassette body
SPOKES Stainless steel 1,8mm black - brass 12mm black, lockseal
TIRES MAXXIS High Roller II EXO 650bx2,3 front, ardent 650b x 2.25” EXO rear, 60tpi folding bead
SEATPOST KINDSHOCK ETEN remote, 100mm travel 31,6x385mm
SADDLE COMMENCAL META by Velo, CrMo rails
SIZES S / M / L / XL
COLOUR Matt BlackFinish
BIKE WEIGHT(kg/lbs) 13,50
FRAME WEIGHT(kg/lbs) N/A
NOTE META Chainstay protector, rear shock mudguard
VIP frame available & Frame available
Only aim for handling and comfort, this META AM HT CrMo clearly intended to riders that know their stuff. With 650b wheels and CrMo frame allows to absorb shocks and bumps without fuss.
Pure, demanding but so sincere, its character does not leave you indifferent!
Geometry
Tech Sheet
Test
1. Frame
Most commonly used for DJ bikes or BMX, CrMo is primarily valued for its durability and comfort. No wonder we chose it for our META HT which vocation, is to be engaged in a committed practice is not afraid of bumps.
- Low center of gravity for maximum stability
- Made for 150mm travel fork
- 66° headtube angle for an agressive riding
2. Suspensions
FOX Float Evolution fork
- FOX 32
- axe de 15 pour une rigidité dans les appuis et un confort lors des franchissements.
- système CTD (Climb Trail Descent) vous permet d'adapter votre compression selon le degré de pente
FOX’s quality : FLOAT Evolution
- 150mm of travel
- CTD system to adapt your compression depending on the degree of the slope
- 32mm fork
3. Stem
ALPHA stem:
- Weight : 150g
- Rise : O°
- 60mm for an agressive and comfortable All-Mountain position
- Forged in Aluminium 2014, alloy that offers the best mechanical characteristic without giving up on reliability and rigidity
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black for a rare and long-lasting finish
4. Handlebar
ALPHA Handlebar:
- Weight: 300g
- 750 mm, optimum width for All-Mountain but easy to shorten thanks to the lazer marks
- Aluminium 7075 triple-butted: high-end alloy overing relibility and lightness
- Intuitive shape (Up sweep 5° / Back sweep 7° / Rise 0,75°)
- Lazer engraving offers 4 easy way to set-up your cockpit: at the stem for the handlebar orientation, at the grips and 2 at the shifters/brakes for an easy placement and orientation
- Lazer engraving, say goodbye to scratches and wear-off
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black
5. Headset
NECO :
- Sealed bearings : ball bearings, located between two support and surrounded by waterproof seals
- low profile for a clean style
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black with the ALPHA logo for a perfect visual transition at the
- Aluminum tightening screws designed by ALPHA: weight saving and avoid rust
- Using an 8mm-Allen for more durability and it saves the screw head
- No rust
- 15mm-topcap for the ideal height
- 5mm-spacer to adjust the height depending of your size
6. Grip
Idem META AM HT1
2014 COMMENCAL Lock-On:
- Durometer 25 grip: best reference for wearing our, deformationa dn comfort
- Lock-on located on the inside to avoid contat with the palm and a better handling
- Grip’s end directly integrated for a slick look
- Designed by Nico, our engineer: directional, anti-slippery
- Approved by our riders
- Weight: 80g, very competitive
7. Drivetrain
Full SRAM group for more smoothness
X5 front derailleur
New X7 shifter with new bearings for more softness
SRAM quality
X7 type 2 rear derailleur, high quality:
- Offers a clutch mechanism that keeps the chain from banging
- Moves only for speed changes
- No oscillations, the chain does not bang against the bases
- Chain controlled more accurately, avoids noise
8. Housing
JAGWIRE
- incompressible, Kevlar reinforced and pre-lubricated, cable housing
9. Cranckset
SRAM S1000
- Double chainring 24/38T
- Aluminium
- Perfect ratio for All-Mountain
10. BB
NECO ISIS 68mm BB
- External bearing
- Classic BSA
- Optimum strength
11. Brakes
FORMULA C1
- ??g
- New model
- 180 mm rotors
- 2 pistons brake caliper
12. MixMaster
MixMaster setup:
- Avoids crowded cockpit
- Shifter and brake lever on the same support
13. Seatpost
KINDSHOCK Eten
- Perfect for All-Mountain
- air/oil operating system for maximum fluidity
- Remote to easily maintain and change it
- 125 mm travel
- Handlebar remote control
14. Saddle
COMMENCAL META
- High-quality coating
- CrMo rails for added strength
- Ideal compromise between a "race" and comfort look
- Weight ??
15. Seat collar
- Aluminium
- Ergonomic
- Tightening done with a screw to shave weight as there is a telescopic seatpost
16. Wheels
JALCO 650b: handling of 26", traction and grip worthy of 29er
- Weight ??
- 26.5mm double wall rims
- 1.8 spokes
- 32 spokes 3-cross laced for reliability and a better compromise between stiffness and deformation of the wheel. The recipe for maximum performance and comfort
- Front hub axle 15 (100x15)
- Rear Hub axle 12 (142x12)
17. Tires
MAXXIS = mix & match to increase grip, output and puncture resistance
- High Roller II 2.3 in front
- Ardent en 2.25 in rear
- Kevlar sidewalls for flexibility and lightness
- Exo finish for reinfoced tires
- ??gr
18. Accessories
Comes without pedals so you can put your favorite
もしかして・・・運命的な出逢いだったのかも？（笑）
ガッカリ～って思ってしまった！
しかし、代わりにと言っては何ですが、650BになったMETA HT CROMOと言うモデルが発生しております。
これは650Bが気になっていて、クロモリが気になっていた自分には願ったり叶ったりかも？
650Bで150mmのサスが装着されているので、下り系のままの様だし・・・
これをフレーム買いして・・・1x10で組んで・・・何て妄想を・・・おっとサルサ野郎さんの病気が感染して来たかも？
気を取り直して、備忘録として書いて置きます。
FRAME New 2014 META CRMO 650b, CrMo light double butted, integrated hanger
FORK FOX 32 650b float evolution o/c, 150mm qr15
HEADSET NECO semi integrated, tapered zs44/44, 1”1/8 lower washer ball retainer
STEM ALPHA, alloy 2014 forged, 60mm, 0° rise, ø31,8mm
BAR ALPHA, alloy 6061db, 0.75”rise, 750mm, ø31,8mm
GRIPS COMMENCAL 2014 lock on, outside ø30mm, soft compound
BRAKES New FORMULA c1, 180mm/180mm, with X7 matchmaker
SHIFTERS SRAM x7 2x10 speed
FRONT MECH SRAM x5 2 speed
REAR MECH SRAM x7 type 2 10 speed
BOTTOM BRACKET SRAM GPX 92mm sealed bearings
CRANKS SRAM S1000 gxp 24/38t, 170mm xs/s, 175mm m/l/xl
CHAIN YABAN SH10C, with quick link connector
CASSETTE SRAM pg1030 11-36t
RIMS JALCO 650b 32h double wall, 26,5mm, pin joint, disc version
HUBS JOYTECH 32h, sealed bearings, steel cassette body
SPOKES Stainless steel 1,8mm black - brass 12mm black, lockseal
TIRES MAXXIS High Roller II EXO 650bx2,3 front, ardent 650b x 2.25” EXO rear, 60tpi folding bead
SEATPOST KINDSHOCK ETEN remote, 100mm travel 31,6x385mm
SADDLE COMMENCAL META by Velo, CrMo rails
SIZES S / M / L / XL
COLOUR Matt BlackFinish
BIKE WEIGHT(kg/lbs) 13,50
FRAME WEIGHT(kg/lbs) N/A
NOTE META Chainstay protector, rear shock mudguard
VIP frame available & Frame available
Only aim for handling and comfort, this META AM HT CrMo clearly intended to riders that know their stuff. With 650b wheels and CrMo frame allows to absorb shocks and bumps without fuss.
Pure, demanding but so sincere, its character does not leave you indifferent!
Geometry
Tech Sheet
Test
1. Frame
Most commonly used for DJ bikes or BMX, CrMo is primarily valued for its durability and comfort. No wonder we chose it for our META HT which vocation, is to be engaged in a committed practice is not afraid of bumps.
- Low center of gravity for maximum stability
- Made for 150mm travel fork
- 66° headtube angle for an agressive riding
2. Suspensions
FOX Float Evolution fork
- FOX 32
- axe de 15 pour une rigidité dans les appuis et un confort lors des franchissements.
- système CTD (Climb Trail Descent) vous permet d'adapter votre compression selon le degré de pente
FOX’s quality : FLOAT Evolution
- 150mm of travel
- CTD system to adapt your compression depending on the degree of the slope
- 32mm fork
3. Stem
ALPHA stem:
- Weight : 150g
- Rise : O°
- 60mm for an agressive and comfortable All-Mountain position
- Forged in Aluminium 2014, alloy that offers the best mechanical characteristic without giving up on reliability and rigidity
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black for a rare and long-lasting finish
4. Handlebar
ALPHA Handlebar:
- Weight: 300g
- 750 mm, optimum width for All-Mountain but easy to shorten thanks to the lazer marks
- Aluminium 7075 triple-butted: high-end alloy overing relibility and lightness
- Intuitive shape (Up sweep 5° / Back sweep 7° / Rise 0,75°)
- Lazer engraving offers 4 easy way to set-up your cockpit: at the stem for the handlebar orientation, at the grips and 2 at the shifters/brakes for an easy placement and orientation
- Lazer engraving, say goodbye to scratches and wear-off
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black
5. Headset
NECO :
- Sealed bearings : ball bearings, located between two support and surrounded by waterproof seals
- low profile for a clean style
- Microblasted finish then anodized in mat black with the ALPHA logo for a perfect visual transition at the
- Aluminum tightening screws designed by ALPHA: weight saving and avoid rust
- Using an 8mm-Allen for more durability and it saves the screw head
- No rust
- 15mm-topcap for the ideal height
- 5mm-spacer to adjust the height depending of your size
6. Grip
Idem META AM HT1
2014 COMMENCAL Lock-On:
- Durometer 25 grip: best reference for wearing our, deformationa dn comfort
- Lock-on located on the inside to avoid contat with the palm and a better handling
- Grip’s end directly integrated for a slick look
- Designed by Nico, our engineer: directional, anti-slippery
- Approved by our riders
- Weight: 80g, very competitive
7. Drivetrain
Full SRAM group for more smoothness
X5 front derailleur
New X7 shifter with new bearings for more softness
SRAM quality
X7 type 2 rear derailleur, high quality:
- Offers a clutch mechanism that keeps the chain from banging
- Moves only for speed changes
- No oscillations, the chain does not bang against the bases
- Chain controlled more accurately, avoids noise
8. Housing
JAGWIRE
- incompressible, Kevlar reinforced and pre-lubricated, cable housing
9. Cranckset
SRAM S1000
- Double chainring 24/38T
- Aluminium
- Perfect ratio for All-Mountain
10. BB
NECO ISIS 68mm BB
- External bearing
- Classic BSA
- Optimum strength
11. Brakes
FORMULA C1
- ??g
- New model
- 180 mm rotors
- 2 pistons brake caliper
12. MixMaster
MixMaster setup:
- Avoids crowded cockpit
- Shifter and brake lever on the same support
13. Seatpost
KINDSHOCK Eten
- Perfect for All-Mountain
- air/oil operating system for maximum fluidity
- Remote to easily maintain and change it
- 125 mm travel
- Handlebar remote control
14. Saddle
COMMENCAL META
- High-quality coating
- CrMo rails for added strength
- Ideal compromise between a "race" and comfort look
- Weight ??
15. Seat collar
- Aluminium
- Ergonomic
- Tightening done with a screw to shave weight as there is a telescopic seatpost
16. Wheels
JALCO 650b: handling of 26", traction and grip worthy of 29er
- Weight ??
- 26.5mm double wall rims
- 1.8 spokes
- 32 spokes 3-cross laced for reliability and a better compromise between stiffness and deformation of the wheel. The recipe for maximum performance and comfort
- Front hub axle 15 (100x15)
- Rear Hub axle 12 (142x12)
17. Tires
MAXXIS = mix & match to increase grip, output and puncture resistance
- High Roller II 2.3 in front
- Ardent en 2.25 in rear
- Kevlar sidewalls for flexibility and lightness
- Exo finish for reinfoced tires
- ??gr
18. Accessories
Comes without pedals so you can put your favorite
もしかして・・・運命的な出逢いだったのかも？（笑）
このあたりはＣＡＲＶＥとは違うんでしょうか？
情報遅いショップが多すぎ、今のショップで５軒目なんすよ、ｋｏｍｅｚｏｕさんとこのショップに行こうかな、でも遠すぎなんすよ、通販やってるんすか？
明日納車なんすけどね、気分がっかし、ここ見なきゃよかった、あーあオークションで売っちまうかな？
CARVE29はクロスカントリーですが、こちらはオールマウンテンなので、DHバイクには叶いませんが富士見も楽しんで下れますよ～！
＞sun-riseさん
いえいえ参考になれば幸いです。
まだまだ決めるのは早いかもですよ～！
＞Motoさん
そうでしょう！
いっちゃいません？
・・・ってもう買わないんじゃなかったでしたっけ？
＞ウエンズダウヒルさん
ショップでも判らないと思いますよ！
各メーカーから発表があり、国内投入機種をこれから決める筈なので、これが入って来るかどうか？も全くの未知数です。
そんな事で、駄目なショップ扱いはちょっと酷いのでは？
情報が遅いのではなく、正式情報が少ないのだと思います。
ショップMは通販はやってないし、ウエンズダウヒルさんは満足されないかと思います。
７月は新車発表時期なんですから、これから情報が入って来るので、それ以前は自分が情報収集しないと何も入って来ません。
情報の有り無しよりもショップの人との付き合いを重視された方が、自転車ライフが充実するかと思いますよ！
お説教じみてすみませんが、ショップとの接し方を変えて素敵な自転車ライフをお過ごし下さい。