Japanese and Koreans invaded Asia. We apologize.

深々と

2010年11月16日 12時08分34秒 | Weblog
コメント欄で紹介していただいた。


CNN
On November 14, 2010
President Obama's visit to Asia. Plus, an interview with former Secretary of State George Shultz.

とばしとばしみる。
経済のことは分からないが、Shults 氏。
Expanding expanding economy is the best way to generate revenue.
経済成長が先だ、と。

健康保険制度についても、普通の産業と同じように競争に任せれば、安くていい商品がでてくる、ということだが、そううまくいくのかね?

Need to keep up with other nations, not just if there is a crisis.

外交では普段だかのつきあいが大事。困ったときだけではだめ、っていうのは日本も同じ。

We are out of order, need to get our house in order.

中国に対してーーーまず、国内を整理しなくちゃ、と。


シンガポールーーーー革新的な創造力で世界一を誇る。

この分野で日本が駄目だと、日本の将来も暗い。

後半に古森氏などがオバマアジア歴訪について述べている。





映像流出事件の主任航海士、5管本部から出る

報道陣の前で頭をさげる主任航海士(16日午前1時25分)=原田拓未撮影
 映像を動画投稿サイトに投稿した主任航海士は16日午前1時すぎ、取り調べを受けていた第5管区海上保安本部などが入る神戸第2地方合同庁舎(神戸市)から弁護士とともに出て、タクシーで宿泊先へ向かった。

 主任航海士の弁護人となった小川恵司弁護士は、16日午前1時過ぎ、「事件を起こしたのは、政治的主張や私利私欲に基づくものではありません。多くの人に遠く離れた日本の海で起こっている出来事を見てもらい、一人ひとりが考えてほしかっただけです。私は今回の行動が正しいと信じておりますが、公務員のルールとしては許されないことであったと反省もしております」との主任航海士のコメントを同本部内で読み上げた。

(2010年11月16日01時34分 読売新聞)


 深々と頭をさげ、このコメント。日本人にはぐっとくる。

仙谷氏、保安官のコメントを厳しく批判 尖閣映像流出

2010年11月16日
11時44分


 仙谷由人官房長官は16日午前の記者会見で、映像流出事件で逮捕が見送られた男性海上保安官が公表したコメントについて「捜査の期間中にそこに身を置く司法警察員の身分を持つ人が、訴訟に関する書類を流出させて『国民に見てもらいたい』などと言うことは想像ができない」と語り、厳しく批判した。

 男性保安官は16日未明、弁護士を通じて「遠く離れた日本の海で起こっている出来事を見てもらいたかった」とするコメントを発表した。仙谷氏は「被害者になろうが加害者になろうが、捜査期間中に捜査書類が流出する捜査機関を信用できるか」とも語り、組織としての海上保安庁の信用問題にもかかわるとの認識を示した。


つくづく馬鹿だな。


白鵬敗れる よくやった63連勝、次に期待(11月16日付・読売社説)

外国人力士の健闘を称賛。いいことだ。

また、

2010年11月16日 12時00分37秒 | Weblog
10000文字超えて投稿できないので、Steve さんへの返答は、新規に投稿しました。そちらをご利用ください。


更新
また、また、コメントしてきた。


@ Mark Hunter

"To the poster who signs with kanji"

→It reads Sora or Kuu, meaning the sky and the emptiness.



"you have no idea what you are talking about."

Do you even know about all the public speaking, meetings attended, and other work that Debito does.......

. One simple example, Debito helped advertise 'Sour Strawberries'



It is not other work that Debito
does.

You are repeating the same example.


And I know other works he does for foreigners in Japan.

Otaru onsen lawsuit long time ago, and yes he promoted the DVD "sour strawberries" , which a few Japanese might have watched and he also promoted the posts such as "don't go to Japan" , " Japan condone the murder of foreigners by its own citizens", "put up a big sign out front proclaiming “No Japanese”" and he supported a foreign rapist by blocking the truth, revealing the real name of the Japanese rape victim against her privacy , advised not to marry, not to have a child in Japan, etc..

(Correct me if I am wrong)


And sorry, but you are not answering other questions I raised.


@ Mark & Steve
MarkさんやSteve さんは日本語がおできにならないのですね。
そうした方々が有道氏のブログを参照にするのは非常に危険だとおもいます。

So you two don't understand Japanese, do you?

I say it will be harmful for people to read his blog for help for the reasons I told above.

For other readers;


Notice Mark posted a comment on Debito blog.

Mark Hunter Says:
November 17th, 2010 at 8:27 am
(UK Guardian compares South Korea’s relatively open-minded future with Japan’s possible “Second Edo Period” of insulation)
,promoting an interview of Debito
on CBC---(Any of us can talk about the immigration, but surely we won't call it activism)----

,without mentioning my suggestion to talk and discuss on my blog.

I am suggesting to discuss with Japanese people in Japanese and raise awareness through the discussions.

I am not saying you must do it on my blog--- I'll be more than happy to welcome you if you come, though--- but it is vital to do it in public so that many Japanese people realize the problems you are facing, to show that it is possible and useful to hold dialog among people from different backgrounds, to examine the problems together for the best solution.

Many posters on Debito org have been rejecting the suggestion while blocking many comments from Japanese and others.
(Isn't it racism by their own standard?)

Many of them can't read nor write Japanese but talk in English about his or her experiences and conversations in Japan.

Many of them have no will nor ability to discuss the problems in Japanese with the Japanese people but they are willing to rant with no passion to the truth.

So please read the blog with a grain of salt if you still want to read it.

Keep the nature of the blog in mind;It is like a Japanese hate blog about Korea, posting a negative news about Korea, with a lot of lies, and exaggerations about Japan on the comment section, fueling the hatred.

Don't be misled by the cause they are upholding. Many of them have no will to participate in Japanese society as one of us, residents in Japan.

I hope you'll join the Japanese society and talk with the Japanese people;The Japanese people are not monsters you should be afraid of discussing with. I know how hard to live in a different culture:it might be good sometimes to rant and let off steam on a hate blog, but keep in mind that it has a destructive aspect as well.

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更新
また、コメントしてきた。


MIKE'S ADDITIONAL COMMENT-
The discussion on this particular case may have run its course.

Okay let's move on.

@ Mark

The followings are the latest comments from Debito's blog.

"
Getchan Says:
November 16th, 2010 at 9:00 am
One of the main problems is the status kids have in Japan’s legal system, which regards them as property of the parents (mostly of the mother), instead of human beings who have human rights (as the right to both parents!!).
Just look at recent cases where mother have killed their kids, or neglected them to death, and compare the sentences to perps who have killed others’ kids. While the latter get severe punishment (justifiedly so!!), mothers who kill their own offspring get much lighter punishment, as if it were “destruction of property”…"


This is as offensive to the Japanese people as misleading to foreigners in Japan.

There is no Japanese law which regard children as property.


"Kevin Says:
November 16th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Debito, no offense, but is HO a handle you created to try to create, or push, discussion? I mean Ho makes such blatant ignorant remarks. I really can’t believe anyone can be this dense on purpose."

The regular readers of Debito org all know HO has been bullied beyond reasonable criticisms. If you say they are not bullies, perhaps you must say that the classmate's behaviors against Akiko were also just healthy criticisms.

Either regular posters have turned a blind eye to them, or Debito has blocked the comment, criticizing the bullies.


"
Adamw Says:
November 16th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Ho,

dont know what youve been reading but according to her own sworn statement,the childrens mother knew she was going to be divorced when she went to america."


As far as I know, this is misleading at best or false at worst.

THE COURT: And she clearly understood that when she was coming to the United States, she wasn’t coming here to reconcile . And it was clear she came here knowing that her husband was involved with another woman, and she came here knowing that he wanted a divorce
 And the proof, as I recall, was that she was served---let's see the pleading in fact may indicate that the paper were filed on June the 18th 2008, I don't know you can glean it from the file but I believe that was in fact the day after she got here.
(pg 122)

THE COURT: Now that does not mean emotionally she was accepting of that;that does not mean she came here and her head telling one thing and her heart telling something else.that does not mean that when he remarried in Feburuary 2009 that didn't drive her to finality of the divorce and the finality of the termination of the relationship. Just because parties got a divorce in December 2008 , that does not mean that that ends the emotional attachment between the two of them.
In terms of Dr Savoie, his emotional attachment ended long time ago, in terms of Ms Savoie I am not sure her's ended even as she sit here today



Noriko・
pg 79

“It’s just heart breaking. The memory of our marriage we have been married for 14 years and we knew each other for 18 years we had very good times most of the times for most of the years. And all of sudden I am・・・”

It is the judge who reasoned that Noriko knew he wanted a divorce.




http://blog.goo.ne.jp/kentanakachan/e/9f7c45242a20483f7bb62516c1175b30



The blog is filled with these comments, with adult posters ignoring these comments, or Debito blocking them.


You said,

"
Debito has done so much to help promote the human rights of foreigners"

Mentioning a good cause does not make the discussion noble.

Do you think this kind of activism promote the human rights of foreigners?

And I notice some of the posters on his blog claim they read and write Japanese and some of the anecdotes presuppose they understand Japanese.
I wonder why they hesitate to join the discussion in Japanese.

I welcome you to my blog.

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An "interview" with controversial human rights activist Orudo Debiru
Amusement/Fiction
foreigners in Japan
October 29, 2010

また、コメントしてきちゃった。


@ Steve

”when his daughter was in the fifth grade in 2009, her 41-year-old mother went to her school for a class observation day for the first time. At the time Akiko’s classmates teased her about her mother’s appearance”


I am not sure this is the right translation.

Japanese article says:

"フィリピン出身の母が授業参観に訪れてから一部の同級生に容姿の悪口を言われるようになった。"

Some classmate started teasing her about her appearance since her mother of Philippines origin went to her school for a class observation day.

When I read the Japanese article, I assumed "her" meant Akiko not her mother.


"you stink. you don't take a bath". That is obvious nasty nasty code for "you're not japanese" to anybody who knows what the word "ofuro" means."

Sorry, but that's sort of Cliché Japanese bullies use against the target, Japanese or not.

And I have no idea what you are reading into the word " ofuro"


The point is that the father's claim does not necessarily mean things were as he described.

We don't know whether the teasing started before or after her mother's visit to the school, we don't know whether her mother being Filipino caused the teasing.

It might or it might not.

The reasons I assume it might not are as follows.

1)there were ijime case due to nationality in the past. In those cases, news agencies didn't hesitate to mention it.

2)mainichi are relatively sensitive to racial issue, but after this article, it stopped mentioning it.

But really we don't know which is the case.

Given these facts, it might be reasonable to ask NHK to report what the father says like mainichi, but it is not reasonable to conclude and categorically report despite the lack of evidence that ijime was due to race.


@ Mark Hunter

I am afraid you overestimate what Debito achieved and underestimate the possible damage he is doing under his activism.

"the annoying passport requests of resident foreigners have dropped considerably."

Reading Debito's blog, there were many cases where the foreigners were not requested to have their passport or gaijin card copied in the first place .No?


"Through Debito's promotion of a documentary revealing the abuse of Asian workers ('Sour Strawberries') thousands of Japanese students and adults have been made more aware of this problem."

Huh? Do you mean there are so many Japanese readers of Debito org and decided to watch 'Sour Strawberries'?

And yet there are few if any Japanese posters on Debito's blog who comment on his blog in Japanese?

The truth is that there are not many Japanese readers of Debito's blog and he blocked many comments in Japanese from the Japanese.

Somebody says on his blog. "
Ever wonder why we all agree with Debito?"

Because he blocks the most of comments he disagree with :much more the comments in Japanese from the Japanese.

Besides, I am not sure how many Japanese really watched the film
And do you know how many Japanese watched it through Debito's blog?



The truth is if Japanese are aware of the plight of asian workers, there are aware of it through Japanese media.

" Child abduction"

By insinuating one way or another to employ the ex-military officer to abduct the child by force.
That is scary.

And it is this kind of extremism (and baseless negative tone about Japan and the Japanese) I am against.

His exclusionism and extremism and the lack of passion to seek the truth through dialog do more harm than good.

False comments,dubious anecdote and misleading comments will not help people of foreign origin and haafu in Japan.

If somebody still wants to use Debito's posts such as it is, I suggest s/he should set up comment section free from Debito's control that also accept the comments from the Japanese people in Japanese.


毎日新聞が、"フィリピン出身の母が授業参観に訪れてから一部の同級生に容姿の悪口を言われるようになった。"
というところを、


”when his daughter was in the fifth grade in 2009, her 41-year-old mother went to her school for a class observation day for the first time. At the time Akiko’s classmates teased her about her mother’s appearance”


と翻訳しているのだが、私はこの日本語の文章から、容姿とは子供の容姿についてだとばかり理解していた。英語では母親の容姿について悪口を言われたことになっている。
その解釈の可能性がないわけではないが、どうだろうか?

どなたか意見があればお聞かせいただきたい。





大人の議論 他

2010年11月16日 01時38分53秒 | Weblog
 なんか眠れないので、ちょこっと。

Greg Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Mike,

Debito.org attracts a lot of different young people, but I think that’s the key word: they’re young. They have political fire in their bellies and they don’t appreciate anyone telling them to study all the empirical evidence and weigh it carefully before making broad judgments. Conflict and shock value prevail; analysis is boring. If they want to go into battle guns blazing, if they want to feel like they’re useful now rather than thoughtful later, if they want to post seemingly derogatory/racist/bigoted/myopic/ill-prepared comments right away about “Japan” on a blog, most of them seem to think it’s okay. Shoot first, ask questions later. Japan is a democracy with free speech. “It’s all about me, me, me, and my feelings as victim.” And you know what? Generally, they’re right. They can say whatever they want. But here’s the funny part: what happens if shooting from the hip isn’t politically effective? What then? Debito Arudou can’t afford to admit it publicly, but I sense that he’s very frustrated that he has little to show for his activist efforts to date. He’s not being invited to Tokyo to consult with the government unlike other non-Japanese. Many (most?) well-known writers and academics, as well as Japanese politicians and bureaucrats, continue to ignore his work. And those few well-known or respected authors that do acknowledge his existence on the internet, with one or two minor exceptions, only do it to criticize his tactics, too. If I were him, I would be disappointed that after 15 years of agitating the public, this is what I’m left with: internet supporters with names like “PKU”, “Tacit Blue,” and “Peach.” Why else would he feel the need to post FaceBook messages from his private account onto a public website, after Ken Joseph, Jr., had already apologized? He needs to prove that he matters.


Tepido org のコメント。我が意を得たり、というところもある。
有道ブログは若者を惹きつけているが、それは若者が思慮深くあるよりも、なんかの役に立ちたいと血気盛んで、経験的な証拠集めて、衡量しながら、判断するよりも、対立や刺激に惹かれているのだ、と。
ただ、ときどきいい年したおじさんおばさんも賛同しているようなのが懸念材料ではある。
(無論、日本の極端に走る集団も同じであるが・・・)

Mike Guest Says:
November 15th, 2010 at 7:50 am
・・・・・
Have you guys at Tepido noticed that a number of Debito supporters seem to have a very binary view of Debito-ish topics? Such as, if one criticizes the veracity of some of Debito’s claims regarding alleged examples of anti NJ racism or xenophobia- that you are therefore ‘in denial’, trying to sweep racism under the rug or even that you must have been compromised by the man..

This denial thing is of course the ultimate dogmatic non-argument: “If you disagree with me it is because you are in denial about the truth”. It ranks up there in the ‘popular auto-response’ stakes with the ‘apologist’ mantra you might get saddled with for the temerity of stating that there is much you like about this country. Go figure.

 
 で、これは、有道氏を支持する人は有道氏の主張を否定すると、日本の差別や外人嫌いの傾向を否定しているかのような二項的な発想しかないのはいかがなものか、と。これは、うまいですね。主張していないことを主張しているといって、そこを攻撃する一種の藁人形論法の誤謬を指摘しているわけですね。こうして相手の議論を分析し、反論する、というのはさすがで、やはり、大人の議論でしょう。

 日本では、偉そうに哲学者の名前を引用したりして、権威ぶった話しぶりをするインテリがいるが、あまり信頼できない。大物の名前を出さなくても、緻密な議論ができる人は、さすが、と思う。


で、久しぶりにDavid Chartさんのブログをのぞいてみる。


Oct
26
2010

Sitting on Trains



As I have mentioned before, there is a rumour on the internet that Japanese people will refuse to sit next to obvious foreigners on trains, even when the train is very crowded. As I have also mentioned before, I see no evidence that this is true. Today, I wish to report further evidence.


 電車のなかで外国人は避けられるという噂があるが、彼の場合にはそういったことはなかった、と。お子さんが電車のなかで吐いても、外国人である彼の席にはちゃんと人が座っていた、と。
 そうだろうなああ、と思う。
 もちろん、避けられるという経験があった外国人をすべて否定するわけでもない。あって不愉快な思いをした人はいるだろう。しかし、少なくとも個人的には、東京ではみたことがない。

 で、この方のブログをちょろちょろのぞいてみるおもしろい。

Atheism and Agnosticism 二〇〇七年の古い投稿だが、無神論と不可知論。

 無神論者ドーキンの議論に賛成し、神の存在は否定するけれども、かといって宗教がまったく無意味とも言い切れない、と、非常におおざっぱに言うと、そんなかんじ。その教義の詳細を信仰するわけでもないが、緩やかな規律の宗教的儀式に参加はして、しかし、

And you don’t go around trying to impose your religion on others, because it’s a largely aesthetic preference.

The biggest difference is that, on this approach, religion has no moral authority.


その宗教を他人に押し付けない。こうした姿勢では、倫理的な権威はうまれないが、それでいい、と。

 ここらへんが面白いですね。日本人にしっくりする宗教観ではないでしょうか?そして、これくらいだと、あまり宗教間で、喧嘩もおきない、かつ、誕生は神道で、結婚式はキリスト教で、葬式は仏教で、という形態もあり、ということになりましょう。

尖閣諸島映像流出
2010年 11月 14日
・・・・・
昨日まで流出したと名乗った海上保安官が任意で事情を調べられたとよく言われるが、保安官のコメントが報道されると、「家に帰れないのは仕方ない」のような内容があった。任意の捜査であれば、いつでも帰ってもいいはずだ。帰るわけにはいかない状況になったら、それは勾留と変わらないだろう。そうであれば、検察側が逮捕すべきなのではないか。・・・・・


これも非常に常識的な反応ですね。

まさに、保安官の弁護士が当初主張していたことです。


【海保職員「流出」】逮捕か任意捜査か「早期決定を」弁護士が検察に申し入れ
2010.11.12


そして、刑事訴訟法の本を読めば必ず出てくる論点でもあるわけですね。
【論証】_刑訴法_04-(2)_「任意同行」_「実質逮捕との区別」_論証

 多分、日本の刑訴の議論はご存じなかったと思いますが、非常に安定した前提と推論で、しっかりした結論を導きやはり、大人の議論といったところでしょうね。

 やはり、こうした外国出身の方々活躍してくれた方が在日外国人のイメージ向上にも友好にもつながる。

 ぼくがいうのもなんですが、英語版もわりに平易な英語で書かれていますし、題材もおもしろそうなのも沢山ありますのでみなさんものぞいてみたらどうでしょうか?




Eyeinthesky Says: http://www.debito.org/?p=7794#comment-211369
November 15th, 2010 at 7:15 am
“The myth of hard-working Japanese salarymen died for me, when I first had a chance to peek into a Japanese office building in Tokyo’s Nihonbashi – in the opposite building, I could watch the guys readig newspapers and slapping OLs’ butts, but they sure didn’t do anything that looked like work”

Yeah I think that everybody who has worked long term in Japan knows that the hard work story is a myth. Its not hard work, its obligation. It squashes imagination and individualism, two things Japan really need to moved forward. Ok, so you bring back the military. Your bringing back the same mind numbing, mind control shit that we see a residue of today. Its just what the uyoku and other facist want. Conscription isnt what Japan needs. What they need is to get rid of the old guard and the wishful thinking of glory days in the bubble economy. I see scary things for Japans future with China becoming stronger and Japan moving backwards.

有道ブログ 

 勤勉な日本人というのは作り話。あれは義務なだけ。想像力と個人主義を粉砕し、日本の進歩を妨げる。それで、軍隊を復活させ、精神を麻痺させ、マインドコントロールをする。右翼やその他の全体主義者が欲しているものだ、云々。

 なんていうか・・・・ですな。上記、血気盛んな若者のタイプなのでしょう。
 (それでも英語で書かれたり、言われたりすると、真に受ける日本人がいるのが情けない、ところですが・・・議論の主張と論拠を分解して分析するのも大人の議論のための面白い練習になるかもしれませんね。)




Can the U.S. and Japan Finally Reconcile Over Hiroshima?
NOV 12 2010, 8:00



 via mozu

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A presidential visit to Hiroshima would likely be politically unpopular back home. Americans, memories of the brutal Pacific war lingering in their minds, have balked at previous such gestures that emphasized Japanese victimhood. A 1995 Smithsonian museum exhibition on the Enola Gay aircraft, which dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, infuriated veterans and was condemned by Congress. They argued that the exhibit was overly sympathetic to Japan and overly critical of U.S. actions that they said liberated the people of Asia from the horrors of Japanese occupation, ended a terrible war, and saved perhaps hundreds of thousands of both American and Japanese lives.

These aren't only the dogma of the Tea Party extreme but are mainstream American views. Ambassador Roos's visit to Hiroshima attracted this kind of criticism. Gene Tibbets, son of Enola Gay pilot Brig. Gen. Paul Tibbets, lamented the visit as an "unspoken apology" to Japan. "They hit Pearl Harbor, they struck us. We didn't slaughter the Japanese -- we stopped the war." In the Wall Street Journal, journalist Warren Kozak warned of moral equivalence, telling Americans of the "inconvenient truth that Japan started the war in the first place" and had been "bent on global conquest and the destruction of people who did not fit their bizarre racial theories."


・・・・・The politics of Hiroshima may therefore keep Obama away while he is in office. Where does this leave the U.S.-Japan relationship? Option one is to leave well enough alone.


・・・・・
The Verdun commemoration, by focusing on shared loss rather than a perpetrator and a victim, avoided offending either side


・・・・・
A third option for the United States and Japan would be to commemorate joint achievements since the war. Perhaps the greatest is Japanese democracy.


 日本と米国の原爆投下に関する和解。

 ご存じだと思いますが、一応言っておきますと、不当であった、という少数派も日本以上に頑張っていますが、原爆投下は正当であったというのが、右翼だけでなくほぼ一般の意見のようです。日本による、パールハーバーやその他の捕虜虐殺と絡めると日米関係が政治的にひっちゃかめっちゃかになってしまう恐れもある。

そこで、和解のありかたとして、
1)歴史問題は放置する
あるいは、
2)加害者・被害者という関係より、共通の損害に焦点をあてる。
あるいは、
3)日本の民主主義など日米共同の成果に焦点をあてる

ことによって和解を達成する、選択肢が提案されている。

 ぼくもこの象徴政治の意義がよくわからないのだが、ぼくはmozuさんと違って意地悪ですから、こうした歴史問題に関する国際的な潮流がある以上、積極的な攻勢はとらないにせよ、どんな形でも、一応駒として持っておくのもいいかな、と、意地悪く思ったりみたりしている。


朝日でも世論調査がでた。

内閣支持27%に急落 外交評価低く 朝日新聞世論調査

2010年11月16日0時3分


  
 朝日新聞社が13、14の両日実施した全国世論調査(電話)によると、菅直人内閣の支持率は27%で、前回調査(10月5、6日)の45%から急落した。不支持率は52%(前回36%)。外交への取り組みや北方領土問題への対応を「評価しない」とする人がいずれも7割を超え、主に外交面での低い評価が支持率低下につながったようだ。

世論調査―質問と回答〈11月13、14日実施〉
 菅内閣の支持率が3割を切るのは、6月の内閣発足後初めて。不支持率もこれまでで最も高くなったが、衆院の解散総選挙については「できるだけ早く実施すべきだ」31%を「急ぐ必要はない」60%が大きく上回っている。


 政権に対する不満が昂じれば、解散をすべきだ、という声も大きくならざるえない。

 やはり、菅直人の指導力がみえない。指導力を見限られると大衆は軽蔑の眼差しを送るだけだ。

 仙谷氏が自覚してくれば、すこしは違ってくるかも知れないと思うが・・・・

異例…仙谷氏、官邸以外の首脳会談に同席

首相官邸以外の場所で行われる首脳会談に、官房長官が出席するのは異例だ。明文化された規定はないものの、首相が官邸のある都内を離れる場合は、官房長官が留守番役として東京都内にとどまり、危機対応に備えるのが事実上の慣例となっている。

(2010年11月15日20時12分 読売新聞)


 読売も仙谷おろしを開始したのではないか?