Mark Austin reports that Otaru, site of the famous onsen lawsuit, still has a “Japanese Only” establishment, “Monika”
Posted by debito on July 7th, 2011
http://www.debito.org/?p=9187
http://megalodon.jp/2011-0709-2318-24/www.debito.org/?p=9187
趣味の有道ブログである。
問題になっているMonikaさんに、今回の件について問い合わせ、返信をいただいた。
無国籍料理FOOD&BAR MONIKA
まず先に今回の件で感情を害されたことについて謝罪させていただきます。
そしてもう一つ伝えたいことがあります
私たちは外国人の方、日本人の方の差別をしていません。
当店に来られたことのある方なら分かってもらえることだとは思いますが、
外国人のお客様と日本人のお客様が初対面でも仲良く話す店です。
外国のお客様と日本のお客様が当店で出会い、交際に発展したこともあります。
しかし外国人であろうと日本人であろうと、あきらかに酔ってる方、他のお客様
に迷惑を掛けそうだとこちらで判断した場合、入店をお断りする場合はありま
す。
今回のお客様は、入店時より高圧的な態度を感じずにはいられませんでした。
お客様の立場であろうと、人と人が交じり合う時に、初対面でとる態度ではない
思います。
言葉の問題、言い回し方などでお互い理解しづらいことは確かです。ならばお互
いが歩み寄って理解していこうとしなければ、今回のようなことがまた起きてし
まうのではないでしょうか。
もし、この文章を読んでまだ信じられないというかたは、是非当店に一度お越し
いただいてもらいたいと思います。もちろん1人でも歓迎いたします。
私の意見も書きたいが、それは後で更新するとして、とりあえず、掲載する。
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my quick translation
Mukokuseki Food&Bar
MONIKA
First of all I apologize if Mr Mark Austin took offence in this case.
I would like to explain.
We are not discriminating foreigners.
As everyone who has visited our shop would know, this is the shop where the Japanese and foreigners, even when meeting for the first time, talk like friends.
There are even cases where a foreigner and a Japanese met at our shop and started dating.
However, a foreigner or a Japanese, if someone who is clearly drunk and/or who look to be likely to make troubles with other customers, I sometimes deny his/her entry to the shop.
I couldn't help but feel overbearing attitudes in him from the time he entered the shop.
A customer or not, I am afraid that it was not the attitudes someone is suppose to take at the first meeting.
It is true that we sometimes misunderstand each other due to the language and the way the words are put, so we have to find a way for both of us to come together at one point and try to understand each other :otherwise, we might allow the similar thing like this happen again.
Anybody who doubt our side of story after reading this, please come to visit our shop.
Of course, we'll welcome a customer unaccompanied.
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一般論として、外国人とトラブルがあった場合の対応として、だからといって、外国人すべてを閉め出すのは、関係のない外国人に失礼であり、しかも、違法となり、損害賠償の対象にもなりうるわけで、間違っているのは当然である。その意味で一般論として、Mark 氏の提言
1 Call the police.
2 Film and photograph the troublemakers (using cell phones or CCTV).
3 Ban individual troublemakers.
4 Ask the local government to contact the foreign ministry of the troublemakers’ country, requesting that foreign ministry to advise its citizens how to behave properly in Japan (the British Foreign Ministry regularly issues such advisories to British citizens traveling abroad; I don’t know if the foreign ministries of China or Russia, two countries whose citizens regularly visit Otaru, do so).
には賛成する。
日本人でも外国人でもトラブルを起こすことはありえ、日本人でも外国人でも、そのトラブルメーカに、そして、そのトラブルメーカーだけに、焦点をあわせればよいわけである。
しかし、今回の件では、そもそも、双方の話で食い違いがある。
店長さんとの電話での話によると、
I pointed out to Mr. XXXXX (in Japanese) that his refusal to serve me constituted racial discrimination (I used the phrase “jinshu sabetsu”) and he agreed that it was, and defended this by merely saying, “Ma, sho ga nai.”
といった会話はなかった、とのことであった。
また、日本語は片言であった、ということである。
今回の件、みていたわけではないから、真相はわからない。
言った言わないの話になるのかもしれないが、しかし、お店の外国人に対するポリシーについては、店長さんがおっしゃるように、いわゆる外国人風の外見の人が、店をたずねてみれば、わかることであろう。
Mark 氏のメルアドがわかれば直接うかがいたいのだが、私は、今回の件でMark さんの側にも疑問がないわけでもない。
まず、なにゆえ、多くの問題を指摘されるブログーーー私にいわせれば、嘘を擁護し、憎悪コメントを垂れ流す不公正なヘイトブログーーーで、今回のメールを公開したのか?
毎度のことではあるが、今回も相手側の話も聞かずに公開している。
http://www.debito.org/?p=9187#comment-255096
Beneaththewheel Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Debito, do you live in or close to this area? Is there anyway you could go there and inquire about the situation?
– Yes I do. But another friend is currently making inquiries. And any Debito.org Reader should feel free to telephone them and ask what happened. That includes you, beneaththewheel. Stand up for your (collective) rights. Don’t always leave it up to me.
そのようなブログであることも調査しなかったのであろうか?あるいは、それも調査済みで、むしろ好都合とおもったのであろうか?
観光協会の対応で不満足だったとすれば、旧知の日本人のジャーナリストに相談してみるとか、他のブログで公開して、解決策を考えることもできたであろう。
また、
The rude treatment given to me on Monday night in Otaru would be unthinkable in my country, or other European countries, or the United States, and, I guess, most other democracies in the world that I’ve visited.
という発言も客員教授としては、て疑問に思わないわけでもない。
普段、新聞を読んでいれば、あるいは、ちょっとググれば、
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Former NBA star John Amaechi refused entry into gay bar amid row
Manchester - John Amaechi has been turned away from a night club in the gay village district of Manchester, England and he is so incensed he is considering legal action against the bar and has written to the local council demanding an explanation.
John Amaechi was out with friends on Friday night (Sept 10) in the gay village district along Canal Street in the northern city of Manchester. When they approached the Crunch bar doormen there refused his party entry. Amaechi, 39 claims the doorman described him as "big, black and could be trouble".
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Refused entry from a night club/bar for being on cruches?
was over in liverpool in england for a night,was being in loads of clubs and had no trouble.
just a background ive got a disability since birth and have crutches.
went to this club anyone and was refused for having crutches,
surley under equality this is not allowed?
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Washington University seniors on their class trip accused a Chicago nightclub of racial discrimination over the weekend, protesting nearby after the club allegedly denied entry to six black male students because of their race.
“I think it’s because we were a group of predominantly black men and they felt threatened,” said senior Blake Jones, one of the students who was not allowed into the bar.
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Moccasin case against club to proceed 9
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VANCOUVER - The B.C. Human Rights Tribunal has ruled a woman denied entry to the Roxy club can move forward with her complaint against the Vancouver nightclub for denying her entry for wearing moccasins.
In March 2010, club owners successfully had the case dismissed before the tribunal. But the B.C. Supreme Court, following an application by complainant Colleen Mitchell White for a judicial review, ordered the tribunal to look into the accusation.
Tribunal member Norman Trerise found there was a reasonable prospect the discrimination complaint will succeed and a full hearing is now expected.
White, an aboriginal, claims she was first denied entry because she was carrying a golf club. When she returned without the club, and wearing moccasins, a doorman allegedly told her, “We don’t serve people in moccasins.”
According to her testimony before a tribunal, the doorman also allegedly punched her in the jaw and called her a prostitute during the March 2009 incident. The Roxy claims the woman was confrontational in her first approach, and denied allegations the doorman hit her and called her a prostitute
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(外国人お断り)
不正な入店お断りのケース、あるいはその嫌疑がかけられているケースが欧米でもあるのはわかることであろう。
私が、欧米の不正なケースをブログで取り上げると、欧米を特に非難しているように思う人がいるようであるが、そうではない。
悪いことは、欧米でも日本でも悪いのである。ある人種あるいは、国籍保持者の入店をその人種、あるいは、国籍ゆえに、不正に拒否するようなことがあれば、それは日本でも悪い。
しかし、欧米ではそうしたことが考えられない、といった無知、あるいは、欧米優越主義のナラティブが嫌なのである。
Mark 氏もこのブログを読んでいたら、あのような嘘や憎悪を垂れ流すブログではなく、こちらでも、ぜひコメントをいただき、意見を出し合いながら、双方の理解を深めることに協力していただきたいものである。
今回の件でも、これからの日本にとっても、日本人と外国人とのコミニケーションの問題は大きい。
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Tepidoにも返信を公開した。
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井上氏が本件に関して投稿をして、卓越した洞察を披露している。
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