「警官は敵だ！」と一外人さん

　優しいお巡りさん怖いお巡りさんなどの一連の”事件に関してである。

　警官に話しかけられているとき、警官は敵だ！！という在日外国人がいる。

Bob Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
debito.org/?p=5221#comment-187267
・・・・
when the cops are talking to you in any country, they are your enemy・・・

　当該外国人のように人権が尊重されるリベラルな国から来た人はあのように考えるかもしれない、という在日外国人たちがいる。

Norik Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
debito.org/?p=5221#comment-187260・・・・ But Aly comes from another cultural background, where privacy and human rights are very highly valued, and such ideas have been in his society for decades.・・・・

Odeena Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
debito.org/?p=5221#comment-187291
I can see how someone coming from a more liberal country, where civil rights and liberties are actually guaranteed, would think differently.

　英米などでの、声かけ、停止・質問・捜索・逮捕・勾留・冤罪・レイシャルプロファイリングなどの法的権限あるいはその運用実態について、当ブログでも検索していただければわかると思うが、他にも調べてみようか。
　仮に、Aly Rustomくんがorangutanjapanのこの方と同一であるとすれば、

氏名 Aly Rustom

国籍 England

母国語 English・・・・
その他得意な言語Arabic

というわけだから、名前とその他の得意な言語から、それに関連する系統のイギリス人ということであろう。

　で、イギリスでは、

Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994

Section 60, which increased police powers of unsupervised "stop and search".

In the exercise of the above powers, it is not necessary for the constable to have any grounds for suspecting that the person or vehicle is carrying the weapons or articles described.

Police stop, search, detention and arrest powers in the United Kingdom

　場合によっては、理由なく停止捜索する権限が与えられ、
　
　また、

Tourists better think twice before snapping pix of British bobbies

BY MEERA SELVA, AP | FEB 16, 2009
LONDON ― Tourists better think twice now before snapping pictures of the iconic British bobby.

A new British anti-terrorism law went into effect Monday that could effectively bar photographers from taking pictures of police or military personnel ― a move that prompted some 200 photographers to protest outside of Scotland Yard's headquarters



It is legal to take photographs in any public space, but photographers complain they have been harassed by police while taking photographs near airports, government buildings or train tracks under the Terrorism Act 2000, which gives police the right to stop, search and question anyone taking photographs.


Freelance photographer Jess Hurd said she was stopped by police when photographing a December wedding of Irish travelers. Part of the story was about how the travelers ― who often roam from site to site ― face harassment from police.

"The police stopped me and ordered me to stop filming them, saying I could be carrying out hostile reconnaissance," Hurd said. "I had no idea what they were talking about until I realized we were vaguely in the vicinity of City Airport."


Photographers who refuse to stop taking pictures after a warning face arrest, up to 10 years in prison or unspecified fines.



　警官や軍人の写真を撮ることをも禁じられる場合がある。

　また、
Brit cops: brutal arrest & illegal detention ~ UK state in action（youtube)
guadian魚拓

Two female protesters who challenged police officers for not displaying their badge numbers were bundled to the ground, arrested and held in prison for four days, according to an official complaint lodged today.

The incident was caught on camera, and footage shows officers standing on the women's feet and applying pressure to their necks immediately after the women attempted to photograph a fellow officer who had refused to give his badge number.

The images are likely to fuel concern over the policing of protests, which is already subject to a review by the national police inspectorate and two parliamentary inquiries after the G20 demonstrations and the death of Ian Tomlinson.

Val Swain, 43, and Emily Apple, 33, both mothers with young children, believe they were deliberately targeted for arrest at last year's climate camp demonstration in Kent because they campaign for Fit Watch, a protest group that opposes police surveillance at demonstrations.

　警官に身分を証明するように請求すると、首をしめられ、手錠までかけられる。

　他の投稿から明らかなようにイギリスではアジア・アフリカ系の停止・質問は他の人にくらべて断然多い。



　たしかに、Alyくんがいた”リベラル”な国では、警官の権限は日本よりより強力で、ときにその運用は過酷である。

　　Aly君、警官に首を絞められるとでも思って過剰反応したのか？

　なお、アメリカの場合について、
Border search exception

The border search exception is a doctrine of United States criminal law that exempts searches of travelers and their property from the Fourth Amendment warrant requirement.
The United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP), a division of the United States Department of Homeland Security, is permitted to search travelers and their belongings at the American border without probable cause or a warrant.

ACLU-NJ SUES NEWARK POLICE FOR ILLEGAL STOP OF YOUNG FOOTBALL PLAYERS
For Immediate Release
April 23, 2009

Pop Warner Three' held at gunpoint and told they had no rights
NEWARK ― The American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey announced that it filed a lawsuit today against the Newark Police Department on behalf of two African American teenagers and their Pop Warner football coach who were held at gunpoint in an illegal police stop.

　動画など
illegal Police Stop In Philadelphia 3 48 pm aug 9 2009(youtube)

Hi My Name Is Michael Jackson and I Was Stopped For Pulling Out My Camara as I Tried Too Find Out Why The Cop Did not Move At a Green Light Holding Traffic up When He Seen Me Pull Out My Camera He Then Started Down The Street Made U Turn Between Ludlow & Chestnut St.. Came Back and Pulled Me Over (I'm On A Bicycle) As You See In The Video When I asked Why I was Stopped I Got No answer,In The State Of Pa. You do Not Need Any One's Permission To Record Video In PA. WOW This Is The City Of Brotherly Love

The Love Police - Illegal to be in a Hurry

South American man was stopped by Police.
His crime was running to his car as he was late to pick up his girlfriend from the airport

及び、youtubeのそれぞれのビデオの関連動画も参照にしてほしい。

（それにしても欧米の法律や実態について知らずに、また、訂正もせずに、欧米優越主義的な発言をする人は絶えない。そして、それを野放しに、そうした情報垂れ流してばかりいるブログっていかがなものか？、と思う。）

　確かに、仮にこうした事件が頻繁にあるなら、警官は敵だ、と考えるのも無理はない。

　上記外国人によれば、

Cops are trained to lie and trick you into getting arrested

　警官は嘘をつき、だまして逮捕できるように訓練されている、のだそうである。

　祖国でどんな目にあったのだろうかわからないが、こうした思いを抱く在日外国人がいると思うとちょっとゾッとするのではないか？
　
　日本では、警官に対して権力の濫用に警戒すべきである一方、また、警官は頼りになる存在でもあり、また、協力すべき存在者である。おまわりさんに対して、全幅の信頼をおくほどでないにせよ、一部在日外国人の人々よりも、信頼関係は厚い。

　日本の場合、在日外国人に対する声かけ、停止などに反対しているケースとして、例えば、Complaints about G8 summit security

July 1st, 2008 by Jamesがあげられる。
　サミットの警戒期間中、録音機をもって、呼び止められるのを待っていたかのように、うろついていた外国出身者の有道氏への職務質問である。

　不思議なことに有道氏は、それ以外の自身の経験を語らない。
関連投稿
ああ、なんて、優しいお巡りさん。
時間があるから
外国人登録証明書

　もう一つ出されているのは、100回以上警官に呼び止められたという在日外人の体験談である。
　しかし、本件では、当該在日外国人は公式の苦情を申し立てること、本件について警察に事情を問い質してみるという第3者からの協力の提案について、結果的に拒否している。

　信頼できる情報とは言えまい。

　苦情をいうのはいいが、しっかりした、情報収集すべきであろう。

　因みに、身分証携帯義務について、
List of identity card policies by country
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia参照

　例えば、ドイツでは携帯義務はないものの、

no you aren't. For the frickin hundred millionth time, THERE IS NO LAW IN GERMANY WHICH REQUIRES YOU TO CARRY A FORM OF ID ON YOU! EVEN FOREIGNERS!

I'd appreciate it if you explained this to the local police...they love to harrass tourists, then the tourists complain to me, I'm sick of hearing it. Also, every time the police stop me (rarely, maybe twice a year...I'm a tour guide, so I'm always around the areas they'd check)...they bitch me out for only having a german driver's license as the only ID they recognize, they want my passport. They let me go with a 5-minute lecture.

I also carry an american license on me, but they want a passport.

How to get a German ID card as a British citizen
Answer: You can't, the cards are only for Germans
Never would have thought...
NOFXmike
10.Oct.2007 14:50 hrs

　警官は旅行者にパスポート、あるいは、ドイツの運転免許証などをみせるように迫られるようである。

　法律の根拠がないから違法であろう。

・・・眠いからこんくらいにして、また後で。