The following is from an exclusive interview between Masayuki Takayama and Mabuchi Mutsuo, which was published in the monthly issue of WiLL on 2019/8/26, titled 'A former diplomat who still has a Korean shoulder and the Asahi Editorial Committee.'
Finally, a great opportunity has come for Korea to wean from Japan
The essence of Abe's diplomacy
Takayama
Except for white-listed countries, the Moon Jae-in administration is desperately anti-Japanese.
As a countermeasure, South Korea has also left Japan's 'white-listed countries.'
But what does this mean (laughs)?
Moon needs to find out the size of his country.
Mabuchi
The removal of 'white-listed countries' is an excellent opportunity for South Korea to wean from Japan.
It corrects the distorted constitution of Korea that relies on Japan despite being anti-Japan.
It is a time when Japan and Korea should be independent in a real sense.
Takayama
It is necessary to let the hand that connected go.
However, when something like this happens, cunning Asahi Shimbun, 'May we lose South Korea?' 'Of adult discretion' and so on, they suggest.
These words have influenced Japan, and in the past, we have said, "Well, it's OK.
However, it is all pain and no gain to have a relationship with Korea.
Mr. Abe, the first prime minister, recognized this fact.
However, the first Abe administration needed to prepare better and was quickly crushed.
Mabuchi
Though it launched, saying 'it retrieves Japan,' there is the American pressure, too, and he could not help being retired, unfortunately.
Takayama
Five years later, at the party debate before the second administration, Hoshi Hiroshi, a former journalist, asked, 'What will the comfort women issue be?'
Mr. Abe replied, 'Mr. Hoshi. Your Asahi Shimbun spread the story of the scammer Yoshida Seiji as if it were true all over Japan.'
Abe-san said a comfort woman problem was a fake in a whole country relay.
Hoshi lost his word, and President Kimura Tadakazu got out of the chair.
It is a great challenge that denounced the media opinion monopoly four years earlier than Trump.
Mabuchi
After all, Asahi admitted in 2014 that Yoshida Seiji's article was incorrect.
Takayama
It made it admit that the comfort woman problem was fake, and Asahi Shimbun took the lead.
It looked like an overwhelming victory.
This draft continues.
2023/1/29, in Kyoto
