Quote from Bapak Talk September 12, 1977
『Brothers and sisters, the One Almighty God has decreed that in human life, or in the human self, there should be the mind and the heart, and besides these there is also the budhi or inner force.
What is the relationship between the budhi and the mind or intelligence?
Budhi, the word budhi, means force or energy; it is strength.
The heart and mind or intelligence is thinking and feeling.
In the human race there are many who would like to know and to receive the stirring of their own inner-selves - that is, the budhi - free from thought and from feeling.
But because people are influenced by the lower forces, they are forced, whether they like it or not, to go away from the budhi and its actions and to enter into the realms of thinking and feeling.
And thinking and feeling have become the prime movers in studying questions of life and living; that is, these have become the mainstay of their worship of the One Almighty God.
In this way people continue to fall flat on their faces when they remain in the realms of thought and feeling.
So human beings consider everything from the mind, not from the budhi, not, as happens in the latihan kejiwaan, from the actions and the life of the jiwa.
Brothers and sisters, up to the present time the customs of mankind are still involved with and affected by their feelings and their minds, their thoughts, so that their worship of God and the way that they obtain proof and evidence in their jiwas are very much influenced by their thinking and feeling. (Note 1)
Whereas these feelings and thoughts are always connected with the lower forces, whose nature is far removed from the reality of the true human being.
It seems to be a habit of human beings to be very fond of what are called holy places.
Bapak himself, when he came to England on past occasions, was often taken by Mr. Bennett to places of historical interest; to 'holy places'.
For it is indeed the custom of spiritual experts to seek out these holy places, so that they are influenced in their practices by the material forces, while these material forces are the forces which are called satanic.
It is like what used to happen in times past.
It is still happening at the present time, and this custom still exists in Indonesia.
Many people say that they are seeking for ilmu ( spiritual wisdom ) and engaging in spiritual practices, but in reality they are practicing asceticism, so that, as in the case of the 'holy places' to which Bapak has just referred, these people eventually become involved in the material sphere which is what is called satanic.』
Note 1:
In other words, according to customs or traditions from the past, it is "a wrong way" from Bapak's point of view, but "performs worship of God and how they get evidence and confirmation with Jiwa" .
This will be a reminder or a complaint about such a situation.
As an example, here Bapak talks about ways like “sacred place pilgrimage” and ways of such worship.
Well, what exactly is Budhi?
It will also be mentioned later.
The reference article is here .
・Susila Budhi Dharma・ Chapter 2 Material Force-1 <--link
・Susila Budhi Dharma ・Chapter of beginning <--link
PS
Well then we have to ask Bapak.
What will happen to the pilgrimage to Mecca decided in Islam?
Is that exactly the best of the holy place pilgrimage?
Well, that's why Bapak never went to Mecca.
The sky over the Middle East has traveled by air several times, but Bapak has never been landed there.
And so, "Bapak's Islam" was such a Islam.
PS
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『Brothers and sisters, the One Almighty God has decreed that in human life, or in the human self, there should be the mind and the heart, and besides these there is also the budhi or inner force.
What is the relationship between the budhi and the mind or intelligence?
Budhi, the word budhi, means force or energy; it is strength.
The heart and mind or intelligence is thinking and feeling.
In the human race there are many who would like to know and to receive the stirring of their own inner-selves - that is, the budhi - free from thought and from feeling.
But because people are influenced by the lower forces, they are forced, whether they like it or not, to go away from the budhi and its actions and to enter into the realms of thinking and feeling.
And thinking and feeling have become the prime movers in studying questions of life and living; that is, these have become the mainstay of their worship of the One Almighty God.
In this way people continue to fall flat on their faces when they remain in the realms of thought and feeling.
So human beings consider everything from the mind, not from the budhi, not, as happens in the latihan kejiwaan, from the actions and the life of the jiwa.
Brothers and sisters, up to the present time the customs of mankind are still involved with and affected by their feelings and their minds, their thoughts, so that their worship of God and the way that they obtain proof and evidence in their jiwas are very much influenced by their thinking and feeling. (Note 1)
Whereas these feelings and thoughts are always connected with the lower forces, whose nature is far removed from the reality of the true human being.
It seems to be a habit of human beings to be very fond of what are called holy places.
Bapak himself, when he came to England on past occasions, was often taken by Mr. Bennett to places of historical interest; to 'holy places'.
For it is indeed the custom of spiritual experts to seek out these holy places, so that they are influenced in their practices by the material forces, while these material forces are the forces which are called satanic.
It is like what used to happen in times past.
It is still happening at the present time, and this custom still exists in Indonesia.
Many people say that they are seeking for ilmu ( spiritual wisdom ) and engaging in spiritual practices, but in reality they are practicing asceticism, so that, as in the case of the 'holy places' to which Bapak has just referred, these people eventually become involved in the material sphere which is what is called satanic.』
Note 1:
In other words, according to customs or traditions from the past, it is "a wrong way" from Bapak's point of view, but "performs worship of God and how they get evidence and confirmation with Jiwa" .
This will be a reminder or a complaint about such a situation.
As an example, here Bapak talks about ways like “sacred place pilgrimage” and ways of such worship.
Well, what exactly is Budhi?
It will also be mentioned later.
The reference article is here .
・Susila Budhi Dharma・ Chapter 2 Material Force-1 <--link
・Susila Budhi Dharma ・Chapter of beginning <--link
PS
Well then we have to ask Bapak.
What will happen to the pilgrimage to Mecca decided in Islam?
Is that exactly the best of the holy place pilgrimage?
Well, that's why Bapak never went to Mecca.
The sky over the Middle East has traveled by air several times, but Bapak has never been landed there.
And so, "Bapak's Islam" was such a Islam.
PS
Character size you can be changed in the top right corner of the page.
List of articles<--Link