Well, Bapak says that the nafsu generated by vegetable force is nafsu Aluamah .
First from the description of the Quran.
"In addition, I swear in the self-disciplining soul." [Q 75: 2] ("nafs lawwāma" corresponding part).
By Sufi from Wiki , According to the standard 7 Nafs in the Sufi's world, ＜－－Link
２. The self-accusing nafs (an-nafs al-luwwāmah)
And from the 4 Nafsu system at Wayang, ＜－－Link
１．The black color symbolizes the desire lawamah, which means greed.
In section 41 of the Gumelaring Jagad which described the tradition of Java ＜－－Link
The first is Aluamah, the color is black.
The place is in the stomach, the door is the lip.
Your physical body wants to eat a lot.
Then, lastly from the explanation of Bapak with a certain talk, ＜－－Link
The first Nafsu (passion) is called ( in Arabic ) aluu'amah;
aluu'amah is ( in Indonesian ) murka, greed:
the color corresponding to nafsu (Sukma : fine body) is Black.
Well first, according to the Wiki, in the seven nafs which become the standard in the Sufi's world.
１．The inciting nafs ( an-nafs al-ʾammārah )
↓
２. The self-accusing nafs (an-nafs al-luwwāmah)
On the other hand, in the 4 nafsu system in Wayang, Indonesia.
１．The black color symbolizes the desire lawamah, which means greed.
↓
２．Red is Amarah and it leads to desire of anger .
This order is reversed to above.
In addition to that, at Gumelaring Jagad's section 41 Nafsu who stated the tradition of Java.
The first is Aluamah, the color is black , you want to eat a lot for your body.
↓
The second is Amarah amarah, the color is red, the body fills the desires and is angry easily.
And the order is the same as Wayang.
And when Bapak mentions only nafsu,
The first is black aluu'amah , greed.
↓
Second is red amarah , self-centered.
And the order is the same as according to the order of Wayang and Java tradition (Gumelaring Jagad).
However, basically it is Bapak which corresponds nafsu amarah to material force and nafsu aluu'amah to vegetable force, so "When ordering nafsu in relation to force, this order will be reversed" .
By the way, what is the order of nafsu for the successor who does not speak about low forces which are material force,vegetable force animal force and human force?
Yes, it will be same to the order in which Bapak mentions only nafsu.
Then Bapak told about Nafsu Aluamah with many talks.
The following will be quoted from there.
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July 20, 1957 - Bapak
what Bapak calls the four nafsu - of which the first is the nafsu aluamah, whose nature is black and which radiates that blackness.
Thus the black light that it radiates is what is usually called the black force or the dark force, or zwarte magie ( black magic ).
As for the functions of these nafsu, the first, aluamah, is said to be strong;
September 29, 1957 - Bapak
The first is called aluamah, the desire or wish to win;
August 6, 1959 - Bapak
the first passion is called ( in Arabic ) aluu'amah; aluu'amah is ( in Indonesian ) murka, greed:
August 7, 1959 - Bapak
These five brothers are said to occupy, or reside in, the human heart, and represent the passions.
They are: aluwamah - this is ( all ) very complicated - aluwamah is avarice;
March 5, 1963 - Bapak
In addition to that passion, there is another that always influences you and obstructs you from having feelings of patience, entrusting yourselves to God and letting go of everything.
That is lawwama, the passion of laziness.
(Note: lawwama is the Arabic etymology of aluamah.)
It means that you do not like to move and you do not like to work, but you just like to eat and sleep.
Moreover ? and well, Bapak says this frankly ? you have a very strong desire for sexual intercourse.
So if you are affected by that influence you don't feel like working, but you like to eat and go out and you like to have sexual intercourse, to be close to women.
13 SEPT 1963 - Bapak
As for the types of desire: the first is called aluwamah in Indonesian.
It causes a person to be hasty, to try to get things by force and to want only to be comfortable.
In other words, such a person wants to eat delicious food, wants everything to be comfortable but does not like to work for it.
That is aluwamah.
July 8, 1970 - Bapak
Second, the vegetable life force.
When the vegetable life force, which is a participant in man's life, works in the human self, it manifests as the nafsu called aluamah.
December 5, 1970 - Bapak
the nafsu arising from the vegetable life force is aluamah,
・・・
If you lived without the nafsu aluamah, or it left you, you would not know about plants and vegetables, whereas you need to eat them to live on earth.
November 26, 1972 - Bapak
Next, you are also filled or powered by the nafsu alumah.
This arises from the nabatiah or vegetable life force.
You very much need to have the nafsu alumah, the nabatiah life force, for without this you could not eat.
If you could not eat, you could not nourish your flesh and blood or be human beings such as you now are.
So you need this nafsu.
June 18, 1981 - Bapak
There are nafsu of Aluamanah, amarah, supiah and then, mut-mainah.
The first two are the nafsu of greed and anger.
The nafsu of the person who wants to win, who wants to defeat others, who wants always to be on top, and to be better than other people.
May 9, 1985 - Bapak
Is this all man needs for living in this world?
No. God is Almighty and has also given man the roh nabati, the life-force of plants.
Of course, you all know what plants are.
There are plants which bear fruits, and there are plants which can be harvested, like rice and wheat, from the plant life-force the nafsu alwamah is embodied within man's being, so you cannot rid yourself of it while you are still alive.
The flesh, skin and blood get their nourishment from plants, and so it is impossible for man to avoid or do away with the nafsu alwamah.
Yet, you must have heard the saying that if you are still full of nafsu you can't get anywhere and that you shouldn't have any motive or self-interest.
Well, in fact, human beings cannot do away with self-interest.
If they did, they wouldn't be promoted in their work, or make a profit in their business.
So it's just talk.
Clearly, the nafsu within man's being cannot be put aside as long as he is still alive.
June 24, 1985 - Bapak
The second kind of nafsu is the nafsu aluamah, which is really the nafsu of greed, wanting everything for oneself, only being able to be aware of one's own needs, to the exclusion of everyone else's.
・・・
Now we come to the nafsu aluamah.
This originates from the vegetable and plant life force, and this again human beings try to avoid, for they realize it disturbs their inner self.
And in trying to avoid it, they choose the means that is traditionally used; that is, asceticism, reducing your food, reducing your sleep and wearing yellow robes, going around begging, all that sort of thing.
This is a means of reducing this nafsu.
But all that is wrong, because in reality you are not supposed to reduce it; you are supposed to have it; it is part of your life.
And without it you cannot become a human being.
If you try to give it up, if you try to follow these techniques until you are really free from this nafsu, the result will be that when you die, you will become a devil or a satanic being, or a ghost - you are no longer a human being.
June 25, 1985 - Bapak
Then there are other nafsu, not just the nafsu amarah.
These are what is called the nafsu aluamah, which comes from the vegetable world.
Are plants necessary for human life?
They are both important and necessary, and not only are they important and necessary, but human life in this world exists only because human beings eat plants.
・・・・・
The nafsu aluamah is based on man's need to eat, on man's need to consume food in order to fulfill the needs of his physical body.
12/16/1999 - Ibu
There is the black one which is the Nafsu Aluamah,
July 12, 2001 - Ibu Rahayu
The nature of the black one is to generate or give us energy.
February 28, 2002 - Ibu
the black one is the passion that gives human beings energy, Using the terminology of Islam, the black one is called aluwamah,
March 3, 2002 - Ibu
the passion aluwamah is portrayed as black,The black one gives you energy to live,
March 10, 2002 - Ibu
Now each fine body or passion has its own nature.
The black one gives someone energy - without the passion aluamah he or she would have no energy.
November 25, 2002 - Ibu
The passion aluwamah has the nature of energy.
It gives human beings the energy they need to live in this world.
25th February, 2005 - Ibu
There is the passion we call aluwamah which gives people the energy to live.
Without this energy we would have no will to live, so you need this force to be able to live here.
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PS
For your information
From "Sedulur Papat Limo Pancer In Kejawen Philosophy"＜－－Link
Aluamah's lust is related to the basic human instinct.
That is the desire to eat, drink, dress, intercourse, etc.
It is said that aluama's lust is due to the influence of the soil elements that constitute the constituents of human corpses.
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First from the description of the Quran.
"In addition, I swear in the self-disciplining soul." [Q 75: 2] ("nafs lawwāma" corresponding part).
By Sufi from Wiki , According to the standard 7 Nafs in the Sufi's world, ＜－－Link
２. The self-accusing nafs (an-nafs al-luwwāmah)
And from the 4 Nafsu system at Wayang, ＜－－Link
１．The black color symbolizes the desire lawamah, which means greed.
In section 41 of the Gumelaring Jagad which described the tradition of Java ＜－－Link
The first is Aluamah, the color is black.
The place is in the stomach, the door is the lip.
Your physical body wants to eat a lot.
Then, lastly from the explanation of Bapak with a certain talk, ＜－－Link
The first Nafsu (passion) is called ( in Arabic ) aluu'amah;
aluu'amah is ( in Indonesian ) murka, greed:
the color corresponding to nafsu (Sukma : fine body) is Black.
Well first, according to the Wiki, in the seven nafs which become the standard in the Sufi's world.
１．The inciting nafs ( an-nafs al-ʾammārah )
↓
２. The self-accusing nafs (an-nafs al-luwwāmah)
On the other hand, in the 4 nafsu system in Wayang, Indonesia.
１．The black color symbolizes the desire lawamah, which means greed.
↓
２．Red is Amarah and it leads to desire of anger .
This order is reversed to above.
In addition to that, at Gumelaring Jagad's section 41 Nafsu who stated the tradition of Java.
The first is Aluamah, the color is black , you want to eat a lot for your body.
↓
The second is Amarah amarah, the color is red, the body fills the desires and is angry easily.
And the order is the same as Wayang.
And when Bapak mentions only nafsu,
The first is black aluu'amah , greed.
↓
Second is red amarah , self-centered.
And the order is the same as according to the order of Wayang and Java tradition (Gumelaring Jagad).
However, basically it is Bapak which corresponds nafsu amarah to material force and nafsu aluu'amah to vegetable force, so "When ordering nafsu in relation to force, this order will be reversed" .
By the way, what is the order of nafsu for the successor who does not speak about low forces which are material force,vegetable force animal force and human force?
Yes, it will be same to the order in which Bapak mentions only nafsu.
Then Bapak told about Nafsu Aluamah with many talks.
The following will be quoted from there.
ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー
July 20, 1957 - Bapak
what Bapak calls the four nafsu - of which the first is the nafsu aluamah, whose nature is black and which radiates that blackness.
Thus the black light that it radiates is what is usually called the black force or the dark force, or zwarte magie ( black magic ).
As for the functions of these nafsu, the first, aluamah, is said to be strong;
September 29, 1957 - Bapak
The first is called aluamah, the desire or wish to win;
August 6, 1959 - Bapak
the first passion is called ( in Arabic ) aluu'amah; aluu'amah is ( in Indonesian ) murka, greed:
August 7, 1959 - Bapak
These five brothers are said to occupy, or reside in, the human heart, and represent the passions.
They are: aluwamah - this is ( all ) very complicated - aluwamah is avarice;
March 5, 1963 - Bapak
In addition to that passion, there is another that always influences you and obstructs you from having feelings of patience, entrusting yourselves to God and letting go of everything.
That is lawwama, the passion of laziness.
(Note: lawwama is the Arabic etymology of aluamah.)
It means that you do not like to move and you do not like to work, but you just like to eat and sleep.
Moreover ? and well, Bapak says this frankly ? you have a very strong desire for sexual intercourse.
So if you are affected by that influence you don't feel like working, but you like to eat and go out and you like to have sexual intercourse, to be close to women.
13 SEPT 1963 - Bapak
As for the types of desire: the first is called aluwamah in Indonesian.
It causes a person to be hasty, to try to get things by force and to want only to be comfortable.
In other words, such a person wants to eat delicious food, wants everything to be comfortable but does not like to work for it.
That is aluwamah.
July 8, 1970 - Bapak
Second, the vegetable life force.
When the vegetable life force, which is a participant in man's life, works in the human self, it manifests as the nafsu called aluamah.
December 5, 1970 - Bapak
the nafsu arising from the vegetable life force is aluamah,
・・・
If you lived without the nafsu aluamah, or it left you, you would not know about plants and vegetables, whereas you need to eat them to live on earth.
November 26, 1972 - Bapak
Next, you are also filled or powered by the nafsu alumah.
This arises from the nabatiah or vegetable life force.
You very much need to have the nafsu alumah, the nabatiah life force, for without this you could not eat.
If you could not eat, you could not nourish your flesh and blood or be human beings such as you now are.
So you need this nafsu.
June 18, 1981 - Bapak
There are nafsu of Aluamanah, amarah, supiah and then, mut-mainah.
The first two are the nafsu of greed and anger.
The nafsu of the person who wants to win, who wants to defeat others, who wants always to be on top, and to be better than other people.
May 9, 1985 - Bapak
Is this all man needs for living in this world?
No. God is Almighty and has also given man the roh nabati, the life-force of plants.
Of course, you all know what plants are.
There are plants which bear fruits, and there are plants which can be harvested, like rice and wheat, from the plant life-force the nafsu alwamah is embodied within man's being, so you cannot rid yourself of it while you are still alive.
The flesh, skin and blood get their nourishment from plants, and so it is impossible for man to avoid or do away with the nafsu alwamah.
Yet, you must have heard the saying that if you are still full of nafsu you can't get anywhere and that you shouldn't have any motive or self-interest.
Well, in fact, human beings cannot do away with self-interest.
If they did, they wouldn't be promoted in their work, or make a profit in their business.
So it's just talk.
Clearly, the nafsu within man's being cannot be put aside as long as he is still alive.
June 24, 1985 - Bapak
The second kind of nafsu is the nafsu aluamah, which is really the nafsu of greed, wanting everything for oneself, only being able to be aware of one's own needs, to the exclusion of everyone else's.
・・・
Now we come to the nafsu aluamah.
This originates from the vegetable and plant life force, and this again human beings try to avoid, for they realize it disturbs their inner self.
And in trying to avoid it, they choose the means that is traditionally used; that is, asceticism, reducing your food, reducing your sleep and wearing yellow robes, going around begging, all that sort of thing.
This is a means of reducing this nafsu.
But all that is wrong, because in reality you are not supposed to reduce it; you are supposed to have it; it is part of your life.
And without it you cannot become a human being.
If you try to give it up, if you try to follow these techniques until you are really free from this nafsu, the result will be that when you die, you will become a devil or a satanic being, or a ghost - you are no longer a human being.
June 25, 1985 - Bapak
Then there are other nafsu, not just the nafsu amarah.
These are what is called the nafsu aluamah, which comes from the vegetable world.
Are plants necessary for human life?
They are both important and necessary, and not only are they important and necessary, but human life in this world exists only because human beings eat plants.
・・・・・
The nafsu aluamah is based on man's need to eat, on man's need to consume food in order to fulfill the needs of his physical body.
12/16/1999 - Ibu
There is the black one which is the Nafsu Aluamah,
July 12, 2001 - Ibu Rahayu
The nature of the black one is to generate or give us energy.
February 28, 2002 - Ibu
the black one is the passion that gives human beings energy, Using the terminology of Islam, the black one is called aluwamah,
March 3, 2002 - Ibu
the passion aluwamah is portrayed as black,The black one gives you energy to live,
March 10, 2002 - Ibu
Now each fine body or passion has its own nature.
The black one gives someone energy - without the passion aluamah he or she would have no energy.
November 25, 2002 - Ibu
The passion aluwamah has the nature of energy.
It gives human beings the energy they need to live in this world.
25th February, 2005 - Ibu
There is the passion we call aluwamah which gives people the energy to live.
Without this energy we would have no will to live, so you need this force to be able to live here.
ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー
PS
For your information
From "Sedulur Papat Limo Pancer In Kejawen Philosophy"＜－－Link
Aluamah's lust is related to the basic human instinct.
That is the desire to eat, drink, dress, intercourse, etc.
It is said that aluama's lust is due to the influence of the soil elements that constitute the constituents of human corpses.
・Susila Budhi Dharma ・・・glance＜－－Link
PS
Character size you can be changed in the top right corner of the page.
List of articles＜－－Link