It is a story of "Lost in the fog."
There is a memories talk about "Destiny and Fate"that has been spoken by Bapak.
Both are the "future of things"but Bapak said "They are different things."
Well, let's listen.
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Lost in the fog by VARINDRA TARZIE VITTACHI
Pak Subuh once spoke to me about the difference between Destiny and Fate.
He said, ‘Most people think that Destiny and Fate are the same thing.
They are not.’
He said, ‘This is the line of destiny, this is the line of fate.
Destiny is God’s will for each one of us;
everything we need, the line of destiny brings to us.
But fate is the line on which we live, subject to all the lower forces.
So the line of destiny represents what should happen to us and could happen to us,
and the line of fate represents what does happen to us.
On the line of fate we are demanding this,we are wanting this and that, and we quarrel with one another.
Thus we put a fog in front of us with our passions.
And so the postman who is bringing these packages that you need cannot find his way to you.
These packages contain everything you need.
You need a good house to live in . that is a package.
You need a good husband or wife . that is a package.
But because of the way we are with all our ambitions and our quarrelling,
these packages have got lost.’
‘So what do you do about it?’ Bapak said.
‘You must thin down,
you must reduce this fog by doing the latihan and by prihatin (selfabnegation).
Then the postman can find his way to you.’
Original text is here, "Lost in the fog." ＜－－ Link
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Now, This is a question time.
Is it "destiny" that come out as an answer in the test?
Or would "fate"?
Well,which is the answer?
How do you think this is?
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Well, such thinking of Bapak about"fate and destiny, thus the relationship between human effort and future" is exactly the same one as those Cirebonese have. ＜－－ Link
And it is a match with the human outlook of Qur'an.
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There is a memories talk about "Destiny and Fate"that has been spoken by Bapak.
Both are the "future of things"but Bapak said "They are different things."
Well, let's listen.
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Lost in the fog by VARINDRA TARZIE VITTACHI
Pak Subuh once spoke to me about the difference between Destiny and Fate.
He said, ‘Most people think that Destiny and Fate are the same thing.
They are not.’
He said, ‘This is the line of destiny, this is the line of fate.
Destiny is God’s will for each one of us;
everything we need, the line of destiny brings to us.
But fate is the line on which we live, subject to all the lower forces.
So the line of destiny represents what should happen to us and could happen to us,
and the line of fate represents what does happen to us.
On the line of fate we are demanding this,we are wanting this and that, and we quarrel with one another.
Thus we put a fog in front of us with our passions.
And so the postman who is bringing these packages that you need cannot find his way to you.
These packages contain everything you need.
You need a good house to live in . that is a package.
You need a good husband or wife . that is a package.
But because of the way we are with all our ambitions and our quarrelling,
these packages have got lost.’
‘So what do you do about it?’ Bapak said.
‘You must thin down,
you must reduce this fog by doing the latihan and by prihatin (selfabnegation).
Then the postman can find his way to you.’
Original text is here, "Lost in the fog." ＜－－ Link
Page255
Now, This is a question time.
Is it "destiny" that come out as an answer in the test?
Or would "fate"?
Well,which is the answer?
How do you think this is?
ＰＳ
Well, such thinking of Bapak about"fate and destiny, thus the relationship between human effort and future" is exactly the same one as those Cirebonese have. ＜－－ Link
And it is a match with the human outlook of Qur'an.
PS
Character size you can be changed in the top right corner of the page.
List of articles＜－－Link