You do not give unnecessary confusion.
You do not bother other people.
Then, if you wish to Latihan, you can participate in the Latihan.
So,that is ideal.
Your thoughts and beliefs and religion should not be obstacle when you want to participate in the Latihan.
Those things are all personal freedom.
Generally, "such a thing will be obstacle of the Latihan."
Some advice can be here.
But whether or not to accept it ,that is up to you.
And if we agree that Latihan is not religion,then we don't need the confession of the faith.
The oath may be a "Seriously Ｉ will practice the Latihan" ,even if we need it.
All other requests will be obstacle to narrow the entrance of the Latihan.
So we does not narrow the entrance of the Latihan.
So we can finally say "Latihan for all mankind."
ＰＳ
About two years time has passed.
But, there is no change to the basic recognition.
And I may add one thing.
It is that "description of the Latihan of Bapak you are listening."
To hear it, you would like to participate in the Latihan convinced yourself.
You can participate in Latihan if so.
If Latihan does not spread, Latihan will be disappear from the earth in the near future .
However, it is not our desire.
PS
Then, it is Bapak's talk that would be helpful.
But, as Bapak stated just now, Bapak does not say that his receiving for mankind is a religion; he only says it is for mankind.
The truth is, brothers and sisters, what Bapak has received is not for a certain group of people, nor is it for one nation, nor is it for a particular way.
It is truly for the whole of mankind, and mankind comprises people who belong to the various different religions.
And the fact is, after Bapak had received and followed the latihan kejiwaan, people of different races and religions were also able to receive it.
・・・・・・・・
Bapak wishes to make it clear, brothers and sisters, that Subud can be a vessel for the whole of humanity to worship God through their respective religions, for the latihan kejiwaan is the means of putting into practice all that man has been given.
Bapak is not saying this to show off the good things that are in Subud.
Not at all.
It is the truth.
Many people acknowledge that this latihan kejiwaan of Subud reveals the reality.
In the Subud latihan, one is quite free to say: 'Allah', 'God', or 'Maha Dewa', 'Maha Yoga' and so on, because none of these names can transcend the Power of God.
They are all enveloped by the essence of the Power of Almighty God, or, as is said in Islam, by Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
(83.8.11 Anugraha)
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This is why in Subud there is no force or no strict rules - everything is left to the will of each individual.
In the other religions what has always happened in the past, like Islam, is that they force people to become Muslims, and they even kill people who don't want to be Muslims.
And the Christians do the same, and the Buddhists also.
But in Subud there is nothing like that - it is left to the will of the person.
(77.11.6 Ecuador)
PS
And then, it is a Bapak's explaining Latihan that would be helpful.
Latihan is the technology to build a house.＜－－link
PS
Character size you can be changed in the top right corner of the page.
List of articles＜－－Link
You do not bother other people.
Then, if you wish to Latihan, you can participate in the Latihan.
So,that is ideal.
Your thoughts and beliefs and religion should not be obstacle when you want to participate in the Latihan.
Those things are all personal freedom.
Generally, "such a thing will be obstacle of the Latihan."
Some advice can be here.
But whether or not to accept it ,that is up to you.
And if we agree that Latihan is not religion,then we don't need the confession of the faith.
The oath may be a "Seriously Ｉ will practice the Latihan" ,even if we need it.
All other requests will be obstacle to narrow the entrance of the Latihan.
So we does not narrow the entrance of the Latihan.
So we can finally say "Latihan for all mankind."
ＰＳ
About two years time has passed.
But, there is no change to the basic recognition.
And I may add one thing.
It is that "description of the Latihan of Bapak you are listening."
To hear it, you would like to participate in the Latihan convinced yourself.
You can participate in Latihan if so.
If Latihan does not spread, Latihan will be disappear from the earth in the near future .
However, it is not our desire.
PS
Then, it is Bapak's talk that would be helpful.
But, as Bapak stated just now, Bapak does not say that his receiving for mankind is a religion; he only says it is for mankind.
The truth is, brothers and sisters, what Bapak has received is not for a certain group of people, nor is it for one nation, nor is it for a particular way.
It is truly for the whole of mankind, and mankind comprises people who belong to the various different religions.
And the fact is, after Bapak had received and followed the latihan kejiwaan, people of different races and religions were also able to receive it.
・・・・・・・・
Bapak wishes to make it clear, brothers and sisters, that Subud can be a vessel for the whole of humanity to worship God through their respective religions, for the latihan kejiwaan is the means of putting into practice all that man has been given.
Bapak is not saying this to show off the good things that are in Subud.
Not at all.
It is the truth.
Many people acknowledge that this latihan kejiwaan of Subud reveals the reality.
In the Subud latihan, one is quite free to say: 'Allah', 'God', or 'Maha Dewa', 'Maha Yoga' and so on, because none of these names can transcend the Power of God.
They are all enveloped by the essence of the Power of Almighty God, or, as is said in Islam, by Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
(83.8.11 Anugraha)
--------------
This is why in Subud there is no force or no strict rules - everything is left to the will of each individual.
In the other religions what has always happened in the past, like Islam, is that they force people to become Muslims, and they even kill people who don't want to be Muslims.
And the Christians do the same, and the Buddhists also.
But in Subud there is nothing like that - it is left to the will of the person.
(77.11.6 Ecuador)
PS
And then, it is a Bapak's explaining Latihan that would be helpful.
Latihan is the technology to build a house.＜－－link
PS
Character size you can be changed in the top right corner of the page.
List of articles＜－－Link