SESSION 2 - PROBLEMS AND HOW THEY RESOLVE - 02 - By Lester Levenson
セッション2 - 問題、そして、それらはどのように解決するか..........5
- 6 - の続きです。
There is no effort in life whatsoever if we would just be
our natural Self. But we're trying to be a limited ego.
That takes effort. It takes effort to be limited when your
natural state is unlimited, and the more you try to be
limited, the more effort it takes. But to be your unlimited
Self it takes no effort. Just like your friend, when she got
to the extreme she would let go and everything would
straighten out, - with no effort. All the time she was
trying and trying, things were getting worse and worse.
But when she gave up and let go, -things resolved.
Q: Well, she had to go out and look for a job, she had to
go to an agent, she just couldn't sit down and wait.
Lester: I say all she had to do was to let go and be
herself. Then even if she locked herself in a chamber
somewhere, the things would have come to her. You
don't sit down and wait, you don't do anything. Just let
go of the sense of doership. You just know that
everything is perfect and then the slightest thought you
have will quickly come into being. There's no limitation
on God, the Self. Whatever you thought, would have to
come into being if you let go, because you're invoking
your infinite power, your Self. Nothing can stop it!
Q: But at the same time you have to struggle to get
some action.
Lester: No, I said just the opposite, I say lock yourself in
a chamber and padlock the outside of it and if you do
what I'm saying you'll find that it will be effected. It has to
be. Nothing can stop it! Omnipotence is invoked!
Q: What is prayer for, what does praying mean?
Lester: Praying is for those who need praying. When
you know what you know, -to whom are you praying? If
you are That, why do you have to pray to It? See,
praying admits duality. “I” pray to “God.” Maintain your
Oneness. However, when one prays it is best to pray for
one thing only, more wisdom, so that you eliminate all
need for any prayer, for any asking. It all depends on
one's state of understanding. Most people in the world
today need to pray. But prayer admits duality, God is out
there. And we should know that God is within. Even
though Jesus said, “The kingdom of God is within,” we
still look for God without and He's not out there, He's
only within. He turns out to be our very own Beingness.
The word “I” with nothing added to it is the God we seek.
When you say “I am something, “-that isn't, or “I and
something,” that too isn't God. But just pure “I” and only
“I,” that is God. That is why it is said that God is closer
than flesh, it's “I,” and how close is “I”? It's closer than
the flesh is, and that is God, your very own Self!
Q: That's a very good feeling.
Lester: Yes, because it's reminding you of what you
know subconsciously, that you are that Self. Just hold
onto the word “I” only, “I, I, I, I,” and you'll become more
exhilarated. Just try it when you're alone. Just “I, I, I,”
and not “I am a body, I am a mind,” but “I” I, I, “-that
feeling of Being. I think the word that describes God
more than any other single word is “Beingness.” God is
all Beingness. We are, when we look within, all
Beingness pretending we're a tiny part of It, a limited
body mind. But when you look within you'll see that you
are all Beingness. Beingness is God! Beingness is also
Awareness, Consciousness. They are the same thing.
Later on, you'll see them as identical: Beingness,
Awareness, and Consciousness.
So be your Self and there never will be a problem. Seeing a problem in the world is trying to be a limited egobody-mind. If you think you have a problem, you do. If
you'll just accept that God is AU, God is Perfect, that's
all there is and look at Perfection, that's all you'll ever
meet with!
Q: Then we have to wipe out the word “problem.”
Lester: Yes. You have to wipe out the words “problem,”
“can't,” “don't,” “won't,” all negative words. In the future
when man is in a state of harmony all these words will
disappear.
Q: As you progress more on the path so many things
seem so much more superficial. I don't know if that's
progress or if I'm becoming indifferent to the world
around me.
Lester: Well, that also is progress, being indifferent, i.e.,
non-attached.
Q: I really couldn't care less about politics or all these
things which at one time seemed so important. Is that
bad?
Lester: How does it feel?
Q: I haven It analyzed the feeling, I've just seen that all
these people think what they're doing is so important,
maybe I'm wrong in that I don't feel that way.
Lester: No, you are right. The higher you go the more
you see the Perfection and therefore the less you see
the problems. The more one sees problems, the lower
one is. What you’re talking about is problems. The
people who see them want you to be the way they are,
and will ten you that you're wrong. This is one thing you
must be on guard against. As you grow those who are
not up to you will try to pull you down to where they are.
Let them think you are wrong. You know you are right!
Don't argue. It's fruitless.
Q: I find that the people try to make me feel selfish because I feel that way. I don't know whether that's true or
not, that's why I wanted to discuss it.
Lester: It's this way, when you don't think the way they
think, they call you selfish. Just check it out. This is
what's going on, this is the way they think. When you
don't think the way they think you are selfish. No, it's not
how much you recognize a problem that shows
unselfishness. It's how much you see that there is no
problem and help others to see it that shows
unselfishness. This way you offer help, you're very
constructive and unselfish.
Q: Just do everything with a desire to help and that is
love.
Lester: Yes, just feel love, you don't necessarily have to
do. Love, -and your thoughts are positive. Thought is far
more powerful than action. It's the basis of and effects
action. It's the initiator, comes before it and determines
action. A realized being sitting in a cave somewhere all
by himself is doing more good for the world than
organizations of action. He is aiding everyone, his help
being subconsciously received by all.
Now we're back to what we were talking about before:
the bottom state is inaction, the middle state is action,
the top state is inaction. The bottom state is one of
apathetic inertia. It's destructive. It just wants to stop
everything, actually destroy everything. The top state
lets everything be just the way it is because everything
is perfect and one in this state mentally and powerfully
projects this to everyone. The middle state is the action
state which moves you up from the bottom toward the
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top state of equilibrium. Now, as you move up, those
who are not as far along as you are will try to pull you
down to where they are.
Q: So, it's sort of a proving ground, or a testing, to see
how much those things bother you.
Lester: Yes. It tests your conviction. Where is your
conviction if you go with them? If you go with them your
tendency is to believe more the way they do.
Q: Which is easier, I know.
Lester: No, try it. If you think it's easier, just go their way
and you'll have more misery as they do.
Q: Sometimes 1 think it's easier to just be one of the
mob.
Lester: Desire for ego approval makes it seem easier.
You'll find out otherwise. You've been one of the mob,
haven't you? You've been like them. It's not easy. No,
the right way is easier. Do you see that? The right way is
letting go and letting God and then everything falls into
line perfectly, -no effort. But when I have to do it, it's not
God, it's me, the ego, wanting to do, to change things,
correct this world, and so forth.
Q: Would a mantra or something like that be the best
thing to remember when these things come up that
way?
Lester: Affirmations are always good. A mantra is an
affirmation that's repeated again and again. Do
whatever will help you to do and be what you think you
should do and be.
Q: That's what I don't know.
Lester: To seek who and what you are, to know your
Self, is the very best thing to do and be. There've been
moments when you've let go and felt your real Self. How
does it feel?
Q: Marvelous, could I have it all the time?
Lester: Yes, certainly, stay that way, that's all. Be what
you are! You're infinite, omniscient, and omnipotent,
right here and now. BE THAT! Stop being this limited,
miserable, little ego.
Q: Well, I have the same problem he has and I thought I
was' becoming indifferent.
Lester: Yes, you're becoming indifferent to the
negativity, and what's wrong with that? What is politics?
It's a mechanism of force and control. In a society where
everyone loves everyone do you need politics? If you
want to help the world, help yourself grow, and you'll do
far more than you could by being involved in politics.
The more you're capable of loving, the more you're
helping the world. Parliments cannot right the world, but
enough people loving can. The President of the United
States must necessarily represent the sum total
consciousness, the sum total thinkingness, of all the
people of the United States added together. Principle,
divine law supersedes man-made law. Consciousness,
thinkingness determines everything. The world out there
is only our collective consciousness. If we don’t like
what’s happening to us in the world, all we have to do is
change our consciousness, -and the world out there
changes for us!
Q: But doesn't this sort of thing take a great deal of
courage many times? Sometimes I don't really have the
guts to be able to do the things I want to do.
Lester: Alright, why don't you have the guts?
Q: I don't know.
Lester: Ego. You want approval from them. You're
seeking their approval; you want to go the way they
want you to go.
Q: It isn't that I want their approval; I don't want their
disapproval.
Lester: Well, isn't that the same thing?
Q: I remember what you said last time: when you
resolve a problem it doesn't come up again, and it's true.
But then you get new ones. When you have solved
something within your own mind and you know that you
have come up a step on the ladder, it doesn't present
itself again, which is a great help. But then there are
always new problems.
Lester: There's no end to problems in the world. You go
on and on forever and ever solving problems in the
world, and you'll have more and more. As long as you
are conscious of problems they exist. Only when you
discover the real you, are there no problems!
What we do is we put our hand in a fire and say, “Ouch,
it's hot, my hand is burning. Boy, do I have a problem.”
That's all. When you see that you are doing it, you stop.
If you have a problem, you're putting your hand into a
problem and yelling, “It hurts!” and acting as though
you're not putting your hand into it. You act as though
you are not doing it. But you are. That problem is in your
consciousness. It's in your mind. Change your mind,
change your consciousness and immediately that
problem is no more. Try it and you'll see that it's so.
Q: Last year when we were all together we were higher
and we had fewer problems.
Lester: That's the prime purpose of coming together as
a group. You're reminded of your direction. You're with
people who are striving in that same direction and you're
moving opposite to the way the world is moving. So
keep positive company as much as possible. And when
you are by yourself stop being what you are not, a
limited body and mind, and just be what you are an
Infinite, totally free, grand and glorious being, whole and
complete.
How to see the ego? Every time there is a reaction to
anyone or anything that reaction is ego motivated. Look
within for the ego motivation and when you see it, let go
of it. Each time an ego motivation is seen, the ego is
weakened. To see ego motivation is to feel it, not just
see it intellectually. The more it hurts, the more we are
involved ego- wise.
***
This Session was recorded in New York City,
September 14, 1984.
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セッション2 - 問題、そして、それらはどのように解決するか..........5
- 6 - の続きです。
There is no effort in life whatsoever if we would just be
our natural Self. But we're trying to be a limited ego.
That takes effort. It takes effort to be limited when your
natural state is unlimited, and the more you try to be
limited, the more effort it takes. But to be your unlimited
Self it takes no effort. Just like your friend, when she got
to the extreme she would let go and everything would
straighten out, - with no effort. All the time she was
trying and trying, things were getting worse and worse.
But when she gave up and let go, -things resolved.
Q: Well, she had to go out and look for a job, she had to
go to an agent, she just couldn't sit down and wait.
Lester: I say all she had to do was to let go and be
herself. Then even if she locked herself in a chamber
somewhere, the things would have come to her. You
don't sit down and wait, you don't do anything. Just let
go of the sense of doership. You just know that
everything is perfect and then the slightest thought you
have will quickly come into being. There's no limitation
on God, the Self. Whatever you thought, would have to
come into being if you let go, because you're invoking
your infinite power, your Self. Nothing can stop it!
Q: But at the same time you have to struggle to get
some action.
Lester: No, I said just the opposite, I say lock yourself in
a chamber and padlock the outside of it and if you do
what I'm saying you'll find that it will be effected. It has to
be. Nothing can stop it! Omnipotence is invoked!
Q: What is prayer for, what does praying mean?
Lester: Praying is for those who need praying. When
you know what you know, -to whom are you praying? If
you are That, why do you have to pray to It? See,
praying admits duality. “I” pray to “God.” Maintain your
Oneness. However, when one prays it is best to pray for
one thing only, more wisdom, so that you eliminate all
need for any prayer, for any asking. It all depends on
one's state of understanding. Most people in the world
today need to pray. But prayer admits duality, God is out
there. And we should know that God is within. Even
though Jesus said, “The kingdom of God is within,” we
still look for God without and He's not out there, He's
only within. He turns out to be our very own Beingness.
The word “I” with nothing added to it is the God we seek.
When you say “I am something, “-that isn't, or “I and
something,” that too isn't God. But just pure “I” and only
“I,” that is God. That is why it is said that God is closer
than flesh, it's “I,” and how close is “I”? It's closer than
the flesh is, and that is God, your very own Self!
Q: That's a very good feeling.
Lester: Yes, because it's reminding you of what you
know subconsciously, that you are that Self. Just hold
onto the word “I” only, “I, I, I, I,” and you'll become more
exhilarated. Just try it when you're alone. Just “I, I, I,”
and not “I am a body, I am a mind,” but “I” I, I, “-that
feeling of Being. I think the word that describes God
more than any other single word is “Beingness.” God is
all Beingness. We are, when we look within, all
Beingness pretending we're a tiny part of It, a limited
body mind. But when you look within you'll see that you
are all Beingness. Beingness is God! Beingness is also
Awareness, Consciousness. They are the same thing.
Later on, you'll see them as identical: Beingness,
Awareness, and Consciousness.
So be your Self and there never will be a problem. Seeing a problem in the world is trying to be a limited egobody-mind. If you think you have a problem, you do. If
you'll just accept that God is AU, God is Perfect, that's
all there is and look at Perfection, that's all you'll ever
meet with!
Q: Then we have to wipe out the word “problem.”
Lester: Yes. You have to wipe out the words “problem,”
“can't,” “don't,” “won't,” all negative words. In the future
when man is in a state of harmony all these words will
disappear.
Q: As you progress more on the path so many things
seem so much more superficial. I don't know if that's
progress or if I'm becoming indifferent to the world
around me.
Lester: Well, that also is progress, being indifferent, i.e.,
non-attached.
Q: I really couldn't care less about politics or all these
things which at one time seemed so important. Is that
bad?
Lester: How does it feel?
Q: I haven It analyzed the feeling, I've just seen that all
these people think what they're doing is so important,
maybe I'm wrong in that I don't feel that way.
Lester: No, you are right. The higher you go the more
you see the Perfection and therefore the less you see
the problems. The more one sees problems, the lower
one is. What you’re talking about is problems. The
people who see them want you to be the way they are,
and will ten you that you're wrong. This is one thing you
must be on guard against. As you grow those who are
not up to you will try to pull you down to where they are.
Let them think you are wrong. You know you are right!
Don't argue. It's fruitless.
Q: I find that the people try to make me feel selfish because I feel that way. I don't know whether that's true or
not, that's why I wanted to discuss it.
Lester: It's this way, when you don't think the way they
think, they call you selfish. Just check it out. This is
what's going on, this is the way they think. When you
don't think the way they think you are selfish. No, it's not
how much you recognize a problem that shows
unselfishness. It's how much you see that there is no
problem and help others to see it that shows
unselfishness. This way you offer help, you're very
constructive and unselfish.
Q: Just do everything with a desire to help and that is
love.
Lester: Yes, just feel love, you don't necessarily have to
do. Love, -and your thoughts are positive. Thought is far
more powerful than action. It's the basis of and effects
action. It's the initiator, comes before it and determines
action. A realized being sitting in a cave somewhere all
by himself is doing more good for the world than
organizations of action. He is aiding everyone, his help
being subconsciously received by all.
Now we're back to what we were talking about before:
the bottom state is inaction, the middle state is action,
the top state is inaction. The bottom state is one of
apathetic inertia. It's destructive. It just wants to stop
everything, actually destroy everything. The top state
lets everything be just the way it is because everything
is perfect and one in this state mentally and powerfully
projects this to everyone. The middle state is the action
state which moves you up from the bottom toward the
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top state of equilibrium. Now, as you move up, those
who are not as far along as you are will try to pull you
down to where they are.
Q: So, it's sort of a proving ground, or a testing, to see
how much those things bother you.
Lester: Yes. It tests your conviction. Where is your
conviction if you go with them? If you go with them your
tendency is to believe more the way they do.
Q: Which is easier, I know.
Lester: No, try it. If you think it's easier, just go their way
and you'll have more misery as they do.
Q: Sometimes 1 think it's easier to just be one of the
mob.
Lester: Desire for ego approval makes it seem easier.
You'll find out otherwise. You've been one of the mob,
haven't you? You've been like them. It's not easy. No,
the right way is easier. Do you see that? The right way is
letting go and letting God and then everything falls into
line perfectly, -no effort. But when I have to do it, it's not
God, it's me, the ego, wanting to do, to change things,
correct this world, and so forth.
Q: Would a mantra or something like that be the best
thing to remember when these things come up that
way?
Lester: Affirmations are always good. A mantra is an
affirmation that's repeated again and again. Do
whatever will help you to do and be what you think you
should do and be.
Q: That's what I don't know.
Lester: To seek who and what you are, to know your
Self, is the very best thing to do and be. There've been
moments when you've let go and felt your real Self. How
does it feel?
Q: Marvelous, could I have it all the time?
Lester: Yes, certainly, stay that way, that's all. Be what
you are! You're infinite, omniscient, and omnipotent,
right here and now. BE THAT! Stop being this limited,
miserable, little ego.
Q: Well, I have the same problem he has and I thought I
was' becoming indifferent.
Lester: Yes, you're becoming indifferent to the
negativity, and what's wrong with that? What is politics?
It's a mechanism of force and control. In a society where
everyone loves everyone do you need politics? If you
want to help the world, help yourself grow, and you'll do
far more than you could by being involved in politics.
The more you're capable of loving, the more you're
helping the world. Parliments cannot right the world, but
enough people loving can. The President of the United
States must necessarily represent the sum total
consciousness, the sum total thinkingness, of all the
people of the United States added together. Principle,
divine law supersedes man-made law. Consciousness,
thinkingness determines everything. The world out there
is only our collective consciousness. If we don’t like
what’s happening to us in the world, all we have to do is
change our consciousness, -and the world out there
changes for us!
Q: But doesn't this sort of thing take a great deal of
courage many times? Sometimes I don't really have the
guts to be able to do the things I want to do.
Lester: Alright, why don't you have the guts?
Q: I don't know.
Lester: Ego. You want approval from them. You're
seeking their approval; you want to go the way they
want you to go.
Q: It isn't that I want their approval; I don't want their
disapproval.
Lester: Well, isn't that the same thing?
Q: I remember what you said last time: when you
resolve a problem it doesn't come up again, and it's true.
But then you get new ones. When you have solved
something within your own mind and you know that you
have come up a step on the ladder, it doesn't present
itself again, which is a great help. But then there are
always new problems.
Lester: There's no end to problems in the world. You go
on and on forever and ever solving problems in the
world, and you'll have more and more. As long as you
are conscious of problems they exist. Only when you
discover the real you, are there no problems!
What we do is we put our hand in a fire and say, “Ouch,
it's hot, my hand is burning. Boy, do I have a problem.”
That's all. When you see that you are doing it, you stop.
If you have a problem, you're putting your hand into a
problem and yelling, “It hurts!” and acting as though
you're not putting your hand into it. You act as though
you are not doing it. But you are. That problem is in your
consciousness. It's in your mind. Change your mind,
change your consciousness and immediately that
problem is no more. Try it and you'll see that it's so.
Q: Last year when we were all together we were higher
and we had fewer problems.
Lester: That's the prime purpose of coming together as
a group. You're reminded of your direction. You're with
people who are striving in that same direction and you're
moving opposite to the way the world is moving. So
keep positive company as much as possible. And when
you are by yourself stop being what you are not, a
limited body and mind, and just be what you are an
Infinite, totally free, grand and glorious being, whole and
complete.
How to see the ego? Every time there is a reaction to
anyone or anything that reaction is ego motivated. Look
within for the ego motivation and when you see it, let go
of it. Each time an ego motivation is seen, the ego is
weakened. To see ego motivation is to feel it, not just
see it intellectually. The more it hurts, the more we are
involved ego- wise.
***
This Session was recorded in New York City,
September 14, 1984.
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